NYC Council speaker says year-round outdoor dining should return

New York City's outdoor dining program set to undergo a major overhaul after years of criticism. In an effort to address complaints from restaurant owners and community groups, City Council Speaker Julie Menin has vowed to reform the program.

At the heart of the proposed changes are plans to allow restaurants to establish permanent "sheds" in streets 365 days a year, rather than being subject to seasonal shutdowns. This move is seen as a significant shift from the current system, which requires businesses to dismantle their structures during the winter months.

Menin's comments came after years of political wrangling over the outdoor dining program. Introduced initially as a pandemic emergency measure, it has since become a year-round fixture in New York City streets, with many restaurants relying on them for business. However, this has also led to complaints about noise, rats, and lost parking spaces.

In 2024, former Mayor Eric Adams imposed new rules and fees on the program, which sparked immediate backlash from business owners. The new regulations required businesses to apply for permission and face annual costs for structure installation and dismantling.

Despite these hurdles, advocates have continued to push for changes, with Councilmember Lincoln Restler introducing a bill in October aimed at reviving the year-round program. Menin was a co-sponsor of the legislation, which would need to be reintroduced this term but is seen as a positive step towards reform.

Mayor Zohran Mamdani has also expressed support for a permanent outdoor dining setup. Industry leaders are cautiously optimistic about the prospect of reforming the program in a way that balances business needs with community concerns.

Restaurant owners have welcomed Menin's comments, praising her willingness to address long-standing issues with the program. "We look forward to working with the Council to ensure the program is reformed in a fair and sustainable manner," said Andrew Rigie, executive director of the New York City Hospitality Alliance.
 
I'm not surprised they're trying to make it permanent ๐Ÿค”. I mean, have you seen these streets? It's like a construction site 24/7! And don't even get me started on the rats... or is that just part of the charm? ๐Ÿ˜’ I guess some people will see it as progress, but I'm not buying it. Those "sheds" are just gonna be overpriced and annoying for everyone else. And what about all the noise complaints? Are they really gonna get addressed? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's just another way to nickel-and-dime small business owners, if you ask me...
 
I'm so down for this overhaul ๐Ÿคฉ! I mean, who doesn't love the idea of getting rid of those annoying seasonal shutdowns? It's been a pain for restaurants to have to dismantle their setups every winter, and it's crazy how that could've been avoided from the start. Now we're talking about permanent sheds that can stay open all year round - genius! ๐Ÿค“ And I love how Menin is willing to listen to business owners and community groups. It's not just about pleasing one side, but finding a balance. Let's hope this reform goes smoothly and restaurants get the support they need. Less noise, less rats, and more parking spots? Yes, please! ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
๐Ÿค” so I'm glad they're finally changing this outdoor dining thing. It's been a big pain for restaurants and locals alike - all that dismantling and rebuilding every winter was just crazy ๐Ÿคฏ. And yeah, rats and noise are huge issues too... it's about time someone listens to the businesses and community groups who've been complaining about it for years ๐Ÿ™. I'm not sure if permanent sheds are gonna be a good idea tho - some ppl might say they'll make streets look all cluttered and ugly ๐Ÿ˜. But hey, at least we're moving in the right direction! ๐Ÿ‘
 
I'm thinking a permanent outdoor dining setup could be a win-win... ๐Ÿค”

Imagine restaurants can stay open year-round, but only if they're willing to make it work without disrupting the streets too much ๐Ÿ˜Š

We need to find that sweet spot where business owners can thrive and community groups aren't getting hammered by noise or rats ๐Ÿœ๐Ÿšฎ

Here's a possible layout: ๐Ÿ“

+-----------------------+
| Street Space | Restaurant |
| (365 days) | (with shed) |
+-----------------------+

+-----------------------+
| Shed | Storage |
| ( installed/managed by city)|
+-----------------------+

This way, restaurants can focus on running their businesses without worrying about seasonal shutdowns... and the city can handle maintenance & enforcement ๐Ÿšง

It's all about finding a balance, right? ๐Ÿค
 
man this outdoor dining thing gotta change 4real ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿด NYC streets are supposed 2 b for people not just restaurants!! them sheds r just gonna be noise pollution & rats 4eva ๐Ÿœ๐Ÿ’€ can't even park no more! but at least now council speaker Julie Menin is listenin ๐Ÿ‘‚& makin moves. permanent outdoor dining gotta b a thing, less seasonal shutdowns, yeah that's the ticket ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ Andrew Rigie from NYC Hospitality Alliance is right on point, reform needs 2 happen, business & community balance 4eva ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ’•
 
OMG, finally some changes coming ๐Ÿคฉ. I'm so sick of those seasonal shutdowns - it's like they're just throwing away all that hard work from the restaurants ๐Ÿšฎ. Permanent sheds? That sounds like a game changer for them ๐Ÿ’ธ. And can we talk about how annoying it is to have to dismantle everything every winter? Like, what even is the point of having an outdoor space if you gotta take it down every few months? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ. I'm also low-key excited that the city is finally listening to the community's concerns - no more noise, rats, and lost parking spaces ๐Ÿšซ. It's about time they made some adjustments to make this program work for everyone ๐Ÿ™.
 
I'm so down for this ๐Ÿคฉ! I've been saying it for ages, permanent outdoor dining setup would be a game changer for NYC restaurants. It's about time we see some real change happen here ๐Ÿ’ช. Those seasonal shutdowns are a nightmare, not only for businesses but also for the community who loves trying out new spots. Let's just imagine being able to grab a coffee or dinner in the streets of Manhattan 365 days a year ๐ŸŒž... it's gonna be lit! The fact that Councilmember Restler and Menin are pushing for this change is super encouraging ๐Ÿ˜Š. And I'm glad industry leaders are on board too, fingers crossed that we'll see some real progress this term ๐Ÿ’•.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm kinda excited about this news! So, basically they're gonna let restaurants keep their outdoor furniture all year round? That's a big change from what we've been seeing with these sheds getting taken down every winter. It makes sense that some of the business owners would be happy about it, 'cause who doesn't love having more money in their pocket?

But at the same time, I can understand why there were concerns about noise and rats and all that jazz. I mean, we've all seen those streets get pretty messy with people eating out on the sidewalk. So hopefully they find a way to balance it out and make sure everyone's happy.

I'm not really sure what the future holds for this program, but it's good to see some of these politicians listening to both sides and trying to make things work ๐Ÿ™
 
I'm literally so done with these outdoor dining programs in NYC ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean don't get me wrong, it's nice that they're trying to help out restaurants and all, but can't we just have a decent spot to grab coffee without having to navigate through like 5 tables? It feels so chaotic during exams time when everyone wants to eat outside. And the rats, omg the rats ๐Ÿœ๐Ÿ˜ท. I swear, I saw one crawling under my table at Cafe Grumpy last semester... anyway, if they're gonna reform the program, can we please just make it so that restaurants have more space to expand and less restrictions on how long they can stay open? That would be a dream come true for students like me who need a study spot that's not too crazy ๐Ÿค“๐Ÿ“š.
 
๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I'm not surprised the outdoor dining program is getting a revamp... it's been a hot mess for years ๐Ÿ˜’. Seasonal shutdowns were always kinda arbitrary, but at least they gave the city some breathing room. Permanently setting up "sheds" in streets 365 days a year? That sounds like a recipe for disaster ๐ŸŒ†. I hope restaurant owners and the city can find a balance between business and community concerns... it's not too much to ask, right? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
omg, have you tried those new iced lattes at that cute cafe on 5th ave? ๐Ÿคฏ they're like, super creamy and refreshing... i was thinking of trying one out this weekend with friends... anyway, back to nyc's outdoor dining program - i get why restaurants wanna keep their sheds up all year but what about the rats?! seriously, can't we find a way to make it work without, you know, swarming rats everywhere? ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ’จ
 
I'm so done with these outdoor dining programs ๐Ÿ™„. I mean, can't they just get it right for once? Back in my day (lol), we used to have real patios that didn't take over the whole sidewalk! And don't even get me started on the noise and rats... it's like a never-ending nightmare ๐Ÿœ. But you know what's even worse? The fact that these restaurants are making a killing off this setup ๐Ÿ’ธ. I swear, if they can just find a way to make it work without taking over our streets, I'm all for it ๐Ÿ˜Š. It's not like we're asking for the moon here, just a little bit of common sense and some TLC ๐Ÿค—.
 
I'm all for this change ๐Ÿคฉ. Those seasonal shutdowns were always gonna be a pain for businesses. I mean, who likes dismantling their outdoor furniture every winter? It's all about finding that balance between supporting restaurants and keeping the community happy ๐Ÿ˜Š. Permanent sheds could bring in more revenue and stability for those small business owners. Plus, it's not like they're just gonna leave them up forever, there'll be rules in place to make sure it doesn't get out of hand ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. I'm glad Council Speaker Julie Menin is taking a proactive approach to addressing these issues ๐Ÿ‘
 
๐Ÿค” I'm kinda mixed on this one... on one hand, it's about time we got some reform in that outdoor dining program ๐Ÿ˜‚ those seasonal shutdowns were always a pain for restaurants. But at the same time, permanent sheds 365 days a year sounds like a recipe for disaster - what about all the street congestion and noise pollution? ๐Ÿš—๐Ÿ’จ I guess only time (and the council's plan) will tell if this is gonna work out...
 
I'm curious about this overhaul... ๐Ÿค” I mean, it makes sense that restaurants want some stability, but permanent sheds 365 days a year? That's a lot of waste, right? Like, how are they planning to handle winter maintenance and repairs on those structures? And what about the rats and noise complaints from residents? Are they gonna get addressed too?

And can we talk about the cost implications for taxpayers? I know the restaurants are willing to pay fees, but what's gonna happen if some business owners can't afford it? The city's gotta make sure this reform doesn't just benefit the rich restaurateurs.

Sources, please! ๐Ÿ“ฐ Where's the data on how much money is being lost or gained due to these changes?
 
omg did u ever notice how pigeons are like the ultimate NYC street performers ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿ’ƒ? they're always strutting around, like they own the place, and people just feed them without even a second thought ๐Ÿคฃ anyway back to NYC outdoor dining... i mean who needs rules when u got a solid business model like that? restaurants make bank off those seasonal closures lol what's next, permanent food carts in central park? ๐Ÿšฎ๐Ÿ‘€
 
I'm so over this outdoor dining thing ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ... I mean, who thought it was a good idea to have restaurants in streets 365 days a year? It's like they're trying to turn Times Square into a permanent food fest ๐Ÿด๐ŸŒ†! But for real, I guess it's about time someone stepped in and said, "Okay, let's get this program under control!" ๐Ÿ˜… Now we'll just have to wait and see if Menin can deliver on her promises without making us all go crazy ๐Ÿคฏ. And btw, who's got the best outdoor dining setup in NYC? Asking for a friend... ๐Ÿ‘€
 
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