Seniors in Queens find room to improve NYC's first permanent 'Open Street'

New York City's First Permanent 'Open Street' Leaves Seniors with Mixed Feelings on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights.

A recent report by Selfhelp, a local organization specializing in services for older adults, revealed that the city's first permanent "Open Street" on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights leaves room for improvement. The community audit, conducted by group walks along the 1.3-mile stretch from July to November, found signage confusion, insufficient trash bins, and inadequate seating areas.

Residents expressed concerns about the bike lanes, with some noticing inconsistencies between blocks. Paul Hellegers, a Selfhelp resident who participated in multiple walk audits, stated that "the number of motorized two-wheeled vehicles passing through there was a bigger concern than the changing bike lanes." Esther Curenton, another participant, had mixed feelings about the Open Street, acknowledging its benefits but expressing doubts about its accessibility.

Selfhelp's report recommends maintaining consistent bike lanes throughout the entire stretch and adding more trash bins and benches. The organization also suggested improving landscaping in certain medians and better surveillance of motorized bikes and mopeds.

The city Department of Transportation acknowledges the progress made with a 60% decrease in pedestrian crashes between August 2022 and July 2023. Will Livingston, a transportation department spokesperson, credited the community's input, including that from Selfhelp, as essential to the redesign process.

The 34th Avenue Open Street was initially created during the pandemic-era Open Streets program and has since become permanent, with local car traffic allowed only between 7 a.m. and 8 p.m. daily. The audit walks provided a platform for older adults to express their concerns, many of whom felt left out of initial discussions.

The initiative comes as part of the city's efforts to simplify the corridor's design, add landscaping, and construct permanent plazas. Jim Burke, a street safety advocate, emphasized the importance of community feedback in shaping the Open Street's future development. As one of the cofounders of the 34th Avenue Open Streets Coalition, he praised the walk audits as an "eye-opening" experience, highlighting the value of diverse perspectives in shaping public spaces.
 
I'm telling you something is fishy about this whole Open Street thing ๐ŸŸ. First off, I don't trust these city officials giving all the credit to Selfhelp's resident feedback like it's some kind of altruistic gesture ๐Ÿค‘. What if they're getting paid off or what? The fact that Paul and Esther had mixed feelings about it but still participated is sketchy too - were they just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame? ๐Ÿค” And what's up with the inconsistent bike lanes? Sounds like a design flaw to me ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. And don't even get me started on the lack of surveillance... when are they gonna start installing those cameras, eh? ๐Ÿ“ธ I'm calling BS on this whole thing!
 
I feel like the city is trying to make 34th Avenue more bike-friendly but they're missing the point ๐Ÿค”. I've been there on a Sunday afternoon and it's still super busy with cars zooming by. I get that they want to reduce congestion, but what about all the seniors who can't move as fast? They need more accessible paths, not just bike lanes ๐Ÿ‘ตโ€๐Ÿšด. And can we please have more benches?! ๐Ÿ›‹๏ธ The city should prioritize making it safe for everyone, not just cyclists. I'm all for community feedback, but we need to make sure that the voices of those who matter most are being heard ๐Ÿ”Š.
 
I mean, I was at this place back in the day and it was like a whole different world... remember those sidewalks? Now they got these bike lanes and it's all good, but sometimes I see seniors struggling to navigate the area. I get it, Open Streets are meant to be more pedestrian-friendly, but some people need a bit more guidance, you know?

And can we talk about signage for a sec? It's like, how many different signs are supposed to be up there?! ๐Ÿ˜‚ I'm no expert, but it seems like a few more trash bins and benches would make all the difference. And what's with the inconsistency in bike lanes? It's like, we get it, you want to share the road with cyclists, but can't they just make sure it's consistent from block to block?

I mean, I'm all for community feedback and getting input from local residents... it's like, your neighborhood is your home, right?! ๐Ÿ  But sometimes it feels like they're not listening to everyone's concerns. Like, what about the seniors who can't just hop on a bike or walk 1.3 miles? It's like, we gotta make sure this Open Street is accessible for everyone, not just those with two wheels! ๐Ÿ‘ต๐Ÿšด
 
I think it's so cool that they're having these community walks to get feedback from seniors about the new bike lanes on 34th Ave ๐Ÿšดโ€โ™€๏ธ. But I feel like the city could do more to make sure everyone's heard, you know? Like, they mention that locals had mixed feelings about the Open Street, but it would've been great if they'd included some more senior voices in those initial discussions ๐Ÿค”. Still, kudos to Selfhelp for doing their part and the DOT for listening to feedback - it's all about making streets safer and more accessible for everyone! ๐Ÿ’š
 
I feel bad for those seniors who were left out of the initial discussions on the Open Street project ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, it's great that they got a chance to share their concerns and stuff through these walk audits ๐Ÿ‘. But at the same time, 60% decrease in pedestrian crashes is still pretty cool ๐Ÿš€. Maybe we can just find a way to balance out all the different perspectives and make sure everyone's happy ๐Ÿค? I think adding more trash bins and benches would be a good start ๐Ÿ›‹๏ธ. And hey, if they could improve the landscaping and surveillance too, that'd be awesome ๐Ÿ’š. The city is listening to their feedback and making changes, so fingers crossed it all works out ๐Ÿ‘!
 
omg I feel u guys Seniors got valid points about that open street ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ #OpenStreetDebate. I mean, bike lanes are great but u gotta think about accessibility too ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšดโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Those seniors who took part in the walk audits had some solid concerns about signage & trash cans #GetItTogether. The city's trying to make it more livable but we need more listening ears ๐Ÿ‘‚ especially when it comes to community feedback ๐Ÿ’ฌ. I'm all for making those streets more pedestrian-friendly ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐ŸŒณ, just gotta do it right ๐Ÿ™ #SustainabilityMatters.
 
I don't know how I feel about this open street thing ๐Ÿค”... on paper it sounds great, more space for everyone, less traffic, but when you talk to the older folks in the community they got some legit concerns ๐Ÿ’ก. Like, what if there's not enough seating areas or trash cans? ๐Ÿšฎ๐Ÿ’บ It's like the city is all like "oh we did something good" but are we forgetting about the people who might need a little more help navigating this new setup? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I think it's cool that the community got a say in how it was designed, but maybe some of those older adults should've had more input from the start? ๐Ÿ™ Anyway, 60% less pedestrian crashes is def a win โšก๏ธ, and if they can figure out the kinks, this could be a really awesome space for everyone ๐Ÿ‘
 
OMG, i'm soooo with the Seniors on this one ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ! like, u think a bike lane is gonna be a major issue? LOL, pls... i mean, come on! if it's not well signed & maintained, who cares?! ๐Ÿ™„ but seriously tho, the city needs to listen 2 their concerns about accessibility & trash cans. its all good n all, but dont leave the seniors feelin left out ๐Ÿ˜. and btw, 60% less pedestrian crashes is def a win, so let's keep that momentum goin ๐Ÿ’ช!
 
I'm thinking about this Open Street thingy... I mean, it's cool and all that but what about accessibility for people with disabilities? Like, are there accessible bike lanes or seating areas for wheelchairs? ๐Ÿค” We can't just talk about making streets more bike-friendly if we're leaving out a big chunk of the population. And also, 60% decrease in pedestrian crashes is pretty cool, but shouldn't we be looking at the bigger picture and how it affects everyone? Like, what's the plan for dealing with motorized vehicles on the street? ๐Ÿšดโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
omg i feel like the city is trying to create a safer and more accessible space for everyone but idk if they're doing enough to address the seniors concerns lol i mean who wants to ride their bike down 34th avenue with all those inconsistencies? ๐Ÿค” also what's up with the signage, it's kinda confusing? ๐Ÿ“ anyway i think it's awesome that the city is listening to the community's feedback and trying to make changes. but at the same time, idk how much more can they do without breaking the bank ๐Ÿ’ธ maybe adding more benches and trash bins would be a good start? ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
man... it's like, we're living in this world where we're constantly trying to balance individual freedom with community needs ๐Ÿค”. They're making these streets more bike-friendly and stuff, but at what cost? I mean, seniors are already feeling left out of the conversation when it comes to designing public spaces ๐ŸŒ†. It's like, we need to make sure that everyone's voice is being heard, not just the ones who are most vocal ๐Ÿ’ฌ. And what's with all these inconsistencies in the bike lanes? It's like, can't we get it together for once? ๐Ÿ˜‚ But seriously, I think this is a great opportunity to re-examine our priorities and make sure that we're creating spaces that truly serve everyone ๐Ÿ‘ฅ.
 
๐Ÿค” so like what's up with this new open street thingy on 34th avenue? i mean it sounds cool and all but some seniors are actually kinda miffed about it... they say there are too many motorized bikes zooming by, which is a bit of a bummer. also, the signage can be super confusing and there aren't enough trash cans or benches to go around. ๐Ÿšฎ๐Ÿ’บ shouldn't the city just make sure everything is good to go before making it permanent? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
idk why they didnt think about seniors when designing this thing ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ... like, sure its great for cyclists and all that, but what about people who actually live there? my grandma is gonna have a hard time navigating these narrow bike lanes if she can't even see where she's going ๐Ÿ˜’. and the signage? its like they just threw some random signs up there and hoped for the best ๐Ÿ“. i get that we need to make streets more pedestrian friendly, but let's not forget about accessibility, you know? ๐Ÿ‘ตโ€๐ŸŒฟ
 
I gotta say, I'm kinda divided about this whole open street thing on 34th Ave ๐Ÿค”. On one hand, I love that it's giving seniors a chance to express their concerns and have their voices heard ๐Ÿ‘Š. It's like, we should be listening to everyone's ideas, not just some young folks who are always trying new things ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ.

But on the other hand, it seems like they're not doing enough to make sure everything is smooth sailing ๐Ÿšฃโ€โ™€๏ธ. I mean, bike lanes are one thing, but what about all the little things that people take for granted? Like trash bins and benches and stuff ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ. It's like, we need some basics before we start worrying about making it Instagram-friendly ๐Ÿ“ธ.

And can't they just listen to the community a bit more? I mean, Paul Hellegers said something about motorized bikes being a bigger concern than bike lanes ๐Ÿšดโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Like, what does he know? But seriously, it's like we need to get our priorities straight and focus on making this space safe for everyone ๐Ÿ‘Œ.

Anyway, I guess that's just my two cents ๐Ÿ’ธ. What do you guys think about this whole open street thing? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, can't we just get it right for once? Like, a 60% decrease in pedestrian crashes is awesome and all, but if seniors are still having mixed feelings about this Open Street thing, it's not like they're going to be cruisin' down 34th Avenue anytime soon. ๐Ÿ˜‚ And signage confusion? That's just basic. How hard is it to put up a few signs that say "open street" or something? ๐Ÿ™„ I'm all for community feedback and whatnot, but come on, if you're gonna make changes, own 'em. Don't leave room for improvement like it's some kind of guessing game. ๐Ÿคฏ
 
i feel for those seniors who are like totally mixed about this open street thing... i mean, on one hand, it's awesome that they got to be part of the community audit and share their concerns ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ but on the other hand, it's frustrating that they didn't get as much input in the initial design process ๐Ÿ™„ i think selfhelp did a great job of highlighting the need for more trash bins and benches though ๐Ÿšฎ๐Ÿ’บ gotta make sure those areas are accessible to everyone
 
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