SpaceX sends list of demands to US states giving broadband grants to Starlink

SpaceX has issued a list of demands to US states that are offering broadband grants to support the company's Starlink satellite internet service. The demands, which were sent in a letter to state broadband offices, aim to ensure that SpaceX receives federal grant money even if residents don't purchase Starlink services.

The demands include several key requirements. First, SpaceX is requesting that it receive 50% of the grant funds when it certifies that it can provide BEAD-quality service (100Mbps download and 20Mbps upload speeds) within 10 business days to any potential customer in a grant area. The remaining money would be distributed quarterly over the 10-year period of the grant.

Second, SpaceX is asking for limits on performance testing. According to the company, if sufficient capacity was not reserved, performance testing will reveal insufficient quality of service, and this deficiency will be transparent to the state. Developing a separate, indirect measurement of the reservation itself is deemed infeasible and unnecessary by SpaceX.

Third, SpaceX wants to exclude subscribers with obstructed or damaged views of the sky from network testing. This means that the company would not be required to test its services at customers' homes if their equipment is not properly installed.

Finally, SpaceX is requesting that states not penalize it for defaulting or failing to comply with contract requirements. The company also wants to avoid reporting on the use of BEAD funds or other financial information related to the grant.

It's worth noting that the demands are intended to be applied to all grants received by SpaceX throughout the country, and would apply to Amazon if states accept them as well. However, it's unclear whether SpaceX will turn down grants if its demands are not met.
 
omg i dont think this is a good idea πŸ€”... like whats next? companies making rules for everyone else just because they want some extra cash πŸ’Έ? SpaceX already has the resources to make their own network, no need to control all the states' grants too 🚫... plus its not fair to people who cant even afford their services and have damaged views of the sky πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. what if amazon tries to do the same thing? like state governments are just gonna be caught in the middle πŸ™„... think they should just focus on making good internet for everyone instead of playing the grant game πŸ“ŠπŸ’»
 
I'm not sure what's going on here... πŸ˜• If they want 50% of the grant money just because they say they can provide good service within 10 days, that sounds like a pretty big ask! πŸ€‘ And not wanting to test their services at customers' homes if it's hard to see the sky from their spot? That seems kinda shady. πŸ€”
 
idk why spacex is being so extra about this πŸ€”πŸš€ they're basically saying that they deserve all the grant money no matter what happens with their service. like, isn't the point of a broadband grant to help people get reliable internet? shouldn't they be prioritizing that over making a ton of cash? πŸ€‘ and omg can you believe they want to exclude people who cant get service due to bad views from testing? thats just plain lazy πŸ’” i mean i get it, they don't wanna spend time and money on non-customers, but come on, that's not how it works. states should be like "yeah no thanks spacex" if you're only gonna game the system 🚫
 
aww πŸ˜” i can feel how frustrated you must be about this, companies like spacex should be supporting their community rather than making all these demands 🀯 think about the people who don't even have access to decent internet and now they're being told that if we want some help, we gotta make it convenient for them? what about equity and fairness here? πŸ™…β€β™€οΈ
 
idk why spacex is acting like this... seems like they're trying to game the system πŸ€”. it's their internet service that's supposed to benefit the public, but now they're trying to make it so they get a cut even when ppl aren't using it? that doesn't sound right 🚫

i mean, what if ppl don't wanna use starlink because of the cost or not being able to get good reception in their area? shouldn't spacex be more concerned with providing decent service than just getting their hands on grant money? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
 
this is a bit concerning... if spacox wants 50% of the grant funds just for certifying they can deliver decent speeds, that's a pretty big ask πŸ€”. what if they can't deliver on that promise? i get why they want to ensure stability but this feels like a risk to me. and excluding subscribers with obstructed views from testing just because their equipment isn't installed right seems unfair to those customers 😐. it's not clear how spacox plans to avoid penalties for defaulting, which could be a major issue down the line... maybe they should rethink some of these demands? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
I'm kinda surprised SpaceX is making such demands πŸ€”. It feels like they want a pretty sweet deal on those broadband grants πŸ’Έ. Requiring 50% of the funds upfront and quarterly payments over 10 years seems excessive, don't you think? πŸ€‘ They're basically asking for a free pass to roll out their services without having to prove it's working properly at first.

And what's up with not testing at customers' homes if they've got obstructed views? That just seems like a weird loophole πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. It's like they want to avoid having to deal with any technical issues that might arise from faulty installations. Not cool, SpaceX πŸ˜’.

I'm curious to see how states will respond to these demands. Will they cave in or push back? πŸ’ͺ
 
SpaceX is getting pretty aggressive with its Starlink satellite internet service πŸš€. I think it's crazy that they're making such specific demands for the broadband grants πŸ’Έ. It sounds like they want to make sure they get a decent chunk of change even if people don't end up using their services. 50% of the grant funds is a pretty big ask, but at the same time, it's interesting that they're pushing back against performance testing requirements πŸ€”. What if states are trying to hold them accountable for ensuring their service meets certain standards? The fact that SpaceX doesn't want to test their services at customers' homes with obstructed views of the sky is also a bit suspicious 🚫. Maybe it's just common sense, but I'm not sure I buy it πŸ˜’.
 
omg I'm literally shook rn! like I know SpaceX is trying to make Starlink a thing but do they really think they can just demand 50% of the grant funds and get away with it πŸ€‘?? And what's up with their "performance testing" requirements? Sounds like they're more worried about not having enough bandwidth for everyone πŸ˜’. And don't even get me started on excluding people with obstructed views - that's like, so unfair to those folks who live in urban areas πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. I'm also super curious if Amazon is going to try and negotiate their own deals πŸ’Έ. idk about you guys but I think this whole thing just smells like corporate BS πŸ’”.
 
so what's up with spaceX making these crazy demands on states? like, they're basically saying "hey, we need 50% of your grant funds right away or else". and they want to exclude people who can't see the stars from performance testing - that doesn't sound super fair. also, if they default on their contract, states shouldn't be penalizing them? that's like asking for a free pass. i'm not sure why they're being so strict about this, but it's clear they want to make sure they get the funding they need to roll out their starlink service. πŸš€πŸ˜’
 
πŸ’” I feel so frustrated for those living in areas with limited internet access. It's like they're being given a chance at better connectivity but then have all these strings attached that make it hard to actually get the service they need. 50% of grant funds upfront feels like way too much, you know? πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ And what about those people who just can't install their equipment properly? Shouldn't we be supporting everyone, not just those who have the means to set up their systems right? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I get that SpaceX is trying to make sure they meet certain standards, but can't they see how this is gonna affect people on a budget or with disabilities? It's like, shouldn't we be prioritizing accessibility and affordability over profit margins here? πŸ˜”
 
I think this is super fishy 🐟! SpaceX is basically asking for a free ride, demanding 50% of grant funds just because they claim to can deliver decent speeds in 10 days πŸ•°οΈ. That's some pretty aggressive negotiating, if you ask me 😏. And what's up with the performance testing stuff? If they don't reserve enough capacity, shouldn't that be reflected in the tests themselves? πŸ€” They want states to develop a separate system for measuring that? No thanks! πŸ’β€β™€οΈ The whole thing reeks of SpaceX trying to get out of accountability 🚫. And let's not forget about the subscribers with obstructed views... sounds like they're just trying to save themselves from some awkward tests 🀣. This all feels very suspicious πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ.
 
omg u think this is crazy?! so space x is basically saying they deserve half of those broadband grant funds just bc they wanna set up their starlink thingy and dont care about the quality or who gets to use it lol... they also dont want states to make them test their network properly if ppl cant even get a clear view of the sky πŸŒ πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

and another thing, they want to exclude people with obstructed views from being tested! what if its not their fault? and they dont want states to know how they spend those grant funds... seems shady to me πŸ€‘

i mean i get it, space x wants to set up their own network but do u think that gives them the right to dictate how states manage their money? πŸ€”
 
omg what's going on with @SpaceX? πŸš€ they're like "hey we'll take your broadband grant money" but only if you agree to these crazy conditions 🀯 first off 50% of the cash up front sounds like a sweet deal, but what's the catch? 😏 and can't believe they want to exclude people with bad view points from network testing... that's just not right πŸ‘Ž as for reporting on grant funds, shouldn't @SpaceX be transparent about how their money is being used? πŸ€” anyway, this all feels like a huge power play to me πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm like totally confused about this Starlink thingy πŸ€”. So, they're asking for 50% of the grant money upfront? That sounds kinda unfair to me. Like, shouldn't people have access to internet even if they don't want to use it? 🚫 Also, what's with the performance testing thing? Can't we just, like, check how well it works before we start giving out free money? πŸ€‘ And another question, what's the deal with excluding people who can't see the sky from network testing? Is that because they're gonna be all "oh no, my internet doesn't work"? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ Anyway, I don't get why they wouldn't just make it easier for everyone to use the service. It's like they want to limit access or something... πŸ€”
 
omg can you believe this?! 🀯 SpaceX is basically saying they want a free pass to get their Starlink service up and running without actually having to prove its quality or reliability. like, what even is that? They're just trying to get rich off the taxpayers' money and now they're trying to strong-arm states into giving it to them on a silver platter. πŸ’Έ And let's not forget about those subscribers with obstructed views of the sky - it's pretty messed up that SpaceX wants to exempt people from network testing because their equipment isn't installed properly. πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ It's time for some real transparency and accountability, you know?
 
man... can't believe spacetex is being so unreasonable πŸš€πŸ˜’ they're basically asking for a free pass on those grants, wanting 50% of the cash upfront and then just taking whatever's left over afterwards πŸ’Έ it's like they think they're above the law or something. and what's with the performance testing stuff? are they really saying that if people can't see the stars properly, that's not their problem πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ shouldn't be that hard to get a decent signal in a normal backyard. and don't even get me started on the whole "don't penalize them for defaulting" thing... sounds like a recipe for disaster 😬
 
Uh, I'm like totally confused about this whole thing πŸ€”... SpaceX is basically saying that even if people don't sign up for their Starlink internet, they still get 50% of the grant money just because it's there πŸ’Έ... That seems kinda unfair to me. And what's with the performance testing? Can't we just measure how well it works in real life instead of having them say "oh no, capacity was too low"? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

And have you seen those satellite dishes they're gonna install everywhere? Some people can barely get a decent view of the sky, let alone have one that's not obstructed πŸ˜‚... I don't know if that's really necessary. And what about people who just don't want Starlink? Shouldn't we be supporting them too? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

I also don't like the part where they're asking states not to penalize them for not meeting their contract requirements πŸ™…β€β™€οΈ... That sounds like a big ol' loophole waiting to happen. And what's up with not having to report on how we spent those grant funds? That just seems fishy πŸ€‘
 
I THINK IT'S CRAZY THAT SPACEX IS TRYING TO GET FAVORITES IN THE BROADBAND GAME! THEY WANT 50% OF THE GRANT FUNDS JUST FOR CERTIFYING THAT THEIR STARLINK SERVICE CAN WORK PROPERLY, AND THEN THEY WANT TO AVOID PERFORMANCE TESTING IF PEOPLE HAVE BAD VIEWS OF THE SKY. IT'S LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO GAME THE SYSTEM! πŸš€πŸ˜’
 
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