To reuse or not reuse—the eternal debate of New Glenn's second stage reignites

Blue Origin's Quest to Reuse New Glenn's Second Stage Reignites Debate

The economics of launching a rocket into space is a complex and ever-evolving field. For Blue Origin, the stakes are high as the company grapples with whether to reuse its second stage or cut costs through manufacturing alone.

At least 15 years ago, the debate began during the early design stages of the New Glenn rocket. The first stage would be fully reusable, but what about the upper stage? Engineers at Blue Origin have been debating this question ever since. They've traded options on reusing the second stage's GS2 in recent years.

In 2025, both Jeff Bezos and Dave Limp said they were continuing to weigh their options on New Glenn's upper stage during an interview with Ars. However, a new job posting for a director of "Reusable Upper Stage Development" suggests that the debate may be shifting back towards reusing GS2.

The company is facing significant costs associated with its current manufacturing process. Sources indicate that it takes over $100 million to manufacture the first stage and more than $50 million for the upper stage, making each launch extremely expensive. To build a sustainable business, Blue Origin needs to find ways to reduce these costs.

One potential solution is reusing the second stage. However, this approach comes with its own set of challenges. Reusable upper stages are still an unknown quantity, and there's currently limited understanding of thermal protection for vehicles returning from orbital velocities. This means that propellant and landing gear mass will likely be affected, impacting performance.

The company has the capacity to build a dozen second stages per year, but rate manufacturing and simpler designs could help reduce costs. The planned 9×4 version of New Glenn, with four BE-3U engines, is expected to increase upper stage costs even further.

In light of these challenges, Blue Origin's decision on whether to reuse GS2 will be crucial in determining the company's long-term success. With a new director tasked with developing reusable upper stages, the pressure is on for the team to crack this problem and unlock significant cost savings for the company.
 
🤔 you know what's weird about Blue Origin? they're always trying to solve one problem and then another pops up 🚀. like, remember when they were all about reusable first stages? now it seems like they're backtracking on that too 🙅‍♂️. what's going on here? are they just not sure which way to go or is there something else at play? 💸 I mean, $100 million and up for an upper stage? that's a lot of cash 💸. maybe they're trying to keep things simple by ditching the reusable option altogether 🤷‍♂️. but what about all those costs they're saving on first stages? is it just not worth it in the end? 🤑 I'm watching this space (no pun intended) and I gotta say, I'm intrigued 🚀
 
I'm low-key hyped about Blue Origin trying to make their reusable upper stage thing happen 🚀! It's crazy expensive right now, but think of all the $$$ they could save if it works out 💸. I mean, $100 million for one first stage is wild 🤯. They need to find a way to reduce those costs or risk getting crushed by SpaceX and Starlink 👽. If reusing GS2 is the answer, it's gonna be a huge win for Bezos and co. 💥 But, gotta keep in mind that this tech is still super experimental, so fingers crossed they figure it out soon 🤞.
 
I feel like Blue Origin is stuck between a rock and a hard place 🤯. On one hand, reusing their second stage could save them so much cash 💸 - we're talking tens of millions of dollars every time they launch! That's crazy money, especially when you consider they already spend over $150 million on just the first stage 🚀. But at the same time, I can see why they'd be hesitant to commit to reusing something that's still kinda unproven 🔮. I mean, have they even tested a reusable upper stage in space yet? 🤔 It's like trying to solve a puzzle without all the pieces, you know? 😅

Anyway, I think it's awesome that Blue Origin is willing to experiment and try new things 💡. They're pushing the boundaries of what we thought was possible with rockets 🚀, and that's gotta count for something! Fingers crossed they figure out a way to make reusing their second stage work 💫. It'd be a game-changer for the space industry 🚀👽.
 
omg I just got my hands on the most affordable ticket to Tokyo 🗺️ for next month!! I've always wanted to visit the Ghibli Museum 😍🎥 anyway back to space stuff... Blue Origin is like, trying to figure out if they should reuse their rocket parts or not. it's kinda like when you're getting ready for school and you have to decide whether to wear last week's shirt or your fresh new one 🤣 but seriously, I don't know much about rockets so can someone explain this reusable thing to me? 🚀💡
 
🤔 I feel like the space industry is at this weird point where everyone wants to innovate and make it more accessible, but also wants to prioritize profit 🤑 Like Blue Origin, they're trying to figure out if it's worth investing in reusing the second stage or not 💸 It's crazy how much money it costs to launch a rocket into space - $100 million+ for just one of those things is insane 😲 But I think this whole reusable thing has the potential to be game-changing for everyone involved 🚀
 
I'm so stoked about this Blue Origin thing 🚀💫! I mean, can you imagine launching rockets into space without breaking the bank? It's like, the future of space travel is all about making it affordable and sustainable. And from what I'm reading, Blue Origin is on the verge of a major breakthrough with reusable upper stages 💪.

I've been following this debate for ages, and I gotta say, it's getting more interesting by the minute 🤔. The economics of launching rockets into space are wild, man – we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars per launch. It's like, what's next? Private space travel for everyone! 🚀

But seriously, if Blue Origin can make this work, it'll be a game-changer for the entire space industry. I mean, think about all the potential applications – satellite launches, lunar missions, Mars exploration... the possibilities are endless 🔭.

So, fingers crossed that they can crack this code and make reusable upper stages a reality 🤞. It's time to take space travel to the next level!
 
omg gotta love the complexity of launching rockets into space 🚀💥! so blue origin is trying to figure out whether they should reuse their second stage or just make more and be done with it 💸. on one hand, reusing would save them some serious cash ($100m+ per launch? yikes!) 🤑 but on the other hand, there are still so many unknowns about thermal protection and all that jazz 🔥.

i think what's really interesting is how blue origin is trying to balance cost savings with innovation 🤔. they're essentially having a debate between "we can make this work" and "let's just build more and be done with it 😴". whatever they decide, i'm sure it'll be super cool to watch them figure it out 💪. one thing for sure though - blue origin needs to get that reusable upper stage sorted ASAP so they can stay competitive in the space launch game 🚀!
 
🚀 I'm loving how Blue Origin is trying to find ways to cut costs on their New Glenn rocket launches 🤑 They're like, "Hey, why not reuse that second stage?" 💡 But, you know, it's not as simple as just slapping a new coating on it and calling it good 😂. Those thermal protection issues are real concerns, and I'm not sure how much they'll be able to crack the code on time 🔥. That $50 million upper stage is already kinda steep for me 🤑... maybe reusing GS2 could help bring prices down? The thing that's got me thinking is if they can get it right, this could be a game-changer for space tourism and stuff 🚀. Let's hope the new director at Blue Origin has some magic up their sleeve ✨!
 
I'm totally stoked about Blue Origin trying out reusing their second stage 🚀💡. I mean, think about it - if they can make it work, it'll be a total game-changer for space tourism and exploration. The costs are insane right now, like $100 million+ for just one launch 🤑. If they can reduce that number by half or more, it'll open up space travel to so many more people.

But at the same time, I'm also getting a little worried about the technical stuff 🤔. Reusing an upper stage is way more complicated than reusing a first stage - there's all these thermal protection issues and propellant mass concerns that need to be figured out. It's like trying to solve a really hard puzzle.

I think it's awesome that Blue Origin has a new director on board tasked with figuring this stuff out 🎉. They've got the resources and expertise to make it happen, but it's gonna take some serious brainpower and innovation. If they can pull it off, though... imagine the possibilities!
 
ugh, blue origin is at it again 🙄 trying to figure out how to save some cash by reusing their second stage, but it's like they're not learning from other companies' mistakes... I mean, we all know reusable rockets are still super complex and there's no easy fix for thermal protection, propellant mass, etc. 💸 the costs might be high now, but i'm sure blue origin can handle it 🤑 what's worrying me is that they're going with a 9×4 engine version which means even more cost... we'll just have to wait and see if they figure out how to make this work 🤔
 
idk why blue origin even bothers trying to keep costs down 🤷‍♀️ like who needs a rocket that's actually affordable? $150 million per launch is still way cheaper than whatever other space companies are paying... but i guess it's better late than never 🕰️ they should just get on board with reusing the second stage already, it can't be that hard right? 💪
 
omg u no how expensiv it is 2 launch a rocket 🚀!!! $100 mil 4 the 1st stage alone? 💸 that's crazy! blue origin needs 2 find a way 2 make it more affordable or they'll probs go bankrupt lol 😂 but reusing the 2nd stage could b a good option... its just that there r so many tech challs 2 overcome 🤔 like thermal protection and all that jazz 💡 anyway, i hope blue origin's team can figure it out and make it happen soon 👍
 
I'm thinking the big question is how are they gonna make it work? 🤔 They need to figure out a way to reuse that second stage without breaking the bank or sacrificing performance... $100 million first stage costs are crazy expensive 💸 And what about them thermal protection issues? Still not sure how they're gonna overcome those hurdles 🚀
 
🚀 omg I'm so down for blue origin to figure out how to reuse their second stage! it makes total sense financially 🤑 they gotta find a way to cut those costs if they wanna make space travel more accessible 💫 and I think reusable upper stages could be the key 💡 would love to see them crack this problem ASAP ⏱️ can't wait to see what other innovative solutions they come up with 💥
 
omg u guys i'm telling u they're not gonna cut costs by just manufacturing more rocket parts 🚀🤯 its all about finding a way 2 reuse that second stage cos $100m + $50m launch costs r crazy 💸 blue origin needs 2 find a way 2 make it affordable or else they'll be outta business ASAP ⏰

i mean think bout it u launch a rocket into space and then u gotta pay millions to manufacture the parts again lol what kind of "innovation" is that? 🤔 instead they should b focusin on reusin that 2nd stage and makin it work like elon's doing with spacex 🚀👍
 
💡 I think it's crazy that Blue Origin is considering reusing their second stage on New Glenn. It's not just about saving money, but also about pushing the boundaries of space tech 💥. Reusable upper stages are still a mystery to many of us, and thermal protection is a huge hurdle they need to overcome 🔥. But if they can make it work, it could be a game-changer for their business 🚀. The real question is, what's the timeline looking like? Can they crack this problem before the costs get too out of hand? ⏱️ Only time will tell! 😬
 
OMG, I think they're totally being crazy by not reusing that second stage yet! I mean, $100 million+ per launch? That's like, insane 💸! They gotta find a way to make it work or else they'll be losing so much cash... and we all know how Bezos feels about his wallet 😅. Plus, reusable upper stages are like, the future of space tech! It's only a matter of time before everyone starts doing it. I'm rooting for Blue Origin to figure this out ASAP, not just for them but for the whole industry 🚀💪.
 
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