Beyond Keane's stick-it-up-your-bollocks, there isn't much else to Saipan | Jonathan Wilson

Saipan, Glenn Leyburn's and Lisa Barros D'Sa's film about the infamous row between Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy before the 2002 World Cup, seems to have lost its way. The movie is obsessed with detail – from the tracksuits to the sweatshirts – but this attention to realism raises more questions than answers.

The film's dramatized scenes often feel like an exercise in mimetic reproduction rather than a genuine attempt to capture the essence of a historical event. While accuracy is admirable, it's not enough to justify the creative liberties taken with the story. In fact, some scenes are downright problematic, like the "stick it up your bollocks" tirade in the hotel restaurant. This pivotal moment has been reduced to a cartoonish scene that doesn't do justice to the actual events.

The film also struggles to convey why the Keane-McCarthy row was so divisive in Ireland. Without context, viewers are left wondering what drove the conflict and why it resonated with so many people. The contemporary clips featuring RTÉ's coverage and phone-ins offer a glimpse into the nation's emotional response, but these moments feel disconnected from the rest of the film.

The portrayal of Keane is excellent, thanks to Éanna Hardwicke's performance, while Coogan's McCarthy feels more like an impression than a genuine representation. However, even with talented actors, it's hard not to notice inconsistencies in their performances – Coogan is three inches shorter than Hardwicke, and the age gap between them feels jarring.

Ultimately, Saipan feels like a dramatization rather than a documentary. While the faithfulness of its recreations is admirable, the film's reliance on mimetic reproduction without adding depth or context makes it feel shallow. By taking creative liberties with the story, the filmmakers may have lost sight of what made this moment so significant in Irish history.

In an age where film and television are constantly trying to recreate moments from our past, Saipan poses a fundamental question: why is dramatization necessary when we already have archives of events? Is it not better to present conflicting views rather than relying on a simplistic narrative that's not rooted in reality?
 
I feel like the film is missing the bigger picture 🤔. It's all about the details, but where's the heart of the story? The tension between Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy was more than just a disagreement - it was a reflection of Ireland's complex emotions during that time 🇮🇪. We should be exploring why this moment resonated so deeply with people, not just rehashing what happened in a hotel restaurant 👊. And yeah, I don't get the stick-it-up-your-bollocks line either... it feels like they're trying too hard to be dramatic 😳.
 
Ugh, I'm so tired of these films trying to recreate every single detail like they're filming a documentary 🤯. It's just so... boring! Can't we get some real context and depth in our storytelling for once? This Saipan film is all about mimetic reproduction, but it feels like an exercise in being thorough rather than actually capturing the essence of what happened. And don't even get me started on how they portrayed Keane - Éanna Hardwicke nailed his performance, but Coogan's McCarthy just felt off 🤔.

I mean, we have all this footage from back then, why do we need a film to reenact it? Can't we just watch some old clips and call it a day? This Saipan thing is like they took every single aspect of the row and stuck it into one movie without adding anything meaningful. It's shallow and unnecessary 🤷‍♂️.

And what really gets my goat is how they glossed over the context behind why that whole thing was so big in Ireland. It feels like they're just trying to entertain us rather than actually explore the themes of the event. I want to see some real depth and analysis, not just a dramatized reenactment 🤦‍♂️.
 
I'm really disappointed with this movie 🤕. I mean, I love Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy, they're legends, but Saipan feels like a watered-down version of their story. They took so many details to make it look realistic, but it's actually kinda boring in the end 😴. And don't even get me started on the scenes that are totally dramatized – I mean, come on! The "stick it up your bollocks" thing is just ridiculous 🙄. What really bothers me is that they lost sight of why this whole thing was so big in Ireland. It's like they forgot to add some context and depth to the story. The only good part is Éanna Hardwicke's performance, she's amazing as Keane! But overall, Saipan just feels like a lazy attempt at recreating history 🤦‍♀️.
 
man, i think the film industry is just trying too hard to recreate history, you know? like, we're so obsessed with accuracy and detail that we forget what really matters - the human experience. saipan seems like it's stuck in this loop of mimetic reproduction, where they're more worried about getting every single little detail right than actually capturing the essence of what happened. and honestly, that just feels like a bunch of fuss to me 🤔. shouldn't we be focusing on presenting a balanced view of events, rather than trying to recreate them in some perfect, Hollywood style? it's like, yeah, i get the importance of accuracy, but sometimes you gotta take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
 
I'm so underwhelmed with Saipan 🤔. I mean, the attention to detail is crazy - those tracksuits and sweatshirts are SO iconic! But at the same time, it feels like they're just checking boxes off a list rather than actually getting into the meat of what made that moment so significant in Irish history.

I get why you'd want to recreate historical events with accuracy, but when does accuracy turn into... well, I don't know, just being accurate for the sake of it? 🤷‍♀️ Like, is there no room for nuance or interpretation? And don't even get me started on the fact that they got some scenes totally wrong. That whole "stick it up your bollocks" moment? It's just so... cartoonish.

And yeah, the performances are good, but I can see why you'd say Coogan's McCarthy feels more like an impression than a genuine representation. Those inconsistencies really threw me out of the film. Maybe if they'd been more careful with their research and added some depth to the story, it would've felt more grounded.

But what really got me thinking is... do we need dramatization at all? Can't we just stick to archives and present conflicting views instead? It's like, why can't we have a documentary that doesn't feel like a choreographed reenactment of someone's diary or whatever?
 
I just saw this movie and I'm still trying to wrap my head around it... I mean, I get why they wanted to recreate the whole Roy Keane vs Mick McCarthy thing from the 2002 World Cup, but it feels like they got so caught up in all the little details that they lost sight of what actually made the story so compelling. Like, yeah, we get it, you guys wore tracksuits and had a row, but can't we just have some real substance to go with it? 🤔 The performances were decent I guess, but Coogan's McCarthy felt really off-putting, like they couldn't even be bothered to cast someone who was the right age or height. And don't even get me started on how shallow the whole thing feels... 😐
 
I gotta disagree with this critic, ya know? I think the attention to detail in Saipan is what makes the film so compelling 🤔. Sure, some scenes might feel a bit staged, but that's kinda the point – it's a dramatization of real events, not a documentary. And let's be real, who wants to sit through hours of dry archival footage when you can have a engaging story with character development? The cast does great jobs too, Éanna Hardwicke is especially on point as Keane 🤩. I think the film's just trying to bring this infamous moment into the present for us, and sometimes that means taking some creative liberties.
 
this movie is like they took every interesting part of the keane-mcCarthy row and made a highlight reel but forgot what actually happened between them. its all about looking cool in tracksuits and sweatshirts lol 🤣 3 inches difference in height btw hardwicke & coogan, that's some next level acting skills 😂
 
🤔 I mean, I love how meticulous the film's costume department is, but at what cost? They're so focused on getting every little detail right that they forget about the bigger picture. It's like they want to put you in a time machine, but instead of feeling immersed, you just feel confused. 😐 The scenes are so dramatic and over-the-top, it feels more like a soap opera than a real documentary. And don't even get me started on how inconsistent the acting is - I mean, come on, can't they at least try to match up the actors' heights? 🙄 Overall, Saipan just feels like a shallow dramatization that's missing out on what made this moment so significant in history.
 
🤔 I don't know about this film being obsessed with detail, but sometimes less is more. It feels like the filmmakers got caught up in recreating every single moment from the row, instead of focusing on what made it so impactful for Ireland back then. And yeah, that "stick it up your bollocks" line does come across as cartoonish now... 🙄 What I wish they did was explore more about why this incident resonated with people's emotions, you know? It's like the film is stuck in the tracksuits and sweatshirts, but forgot to look at the hearts of those involved. 😐
 
🤔 This movie feels like it's more about showing off its research skills than actually telling a story 📚 The attention to detail is cool, but if the execution isn't there, what's the point? 👎
 
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