Criminal Cases Review Commission refers indefinite sentences of five men for appeal

Young Men's Indefinite Sentences Under Fire as Criminal Cases Review Commission Takes on IPP Scheme

A significant development has emerged in the UK justice system, with the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) referring five men to appeal over their indefinite sentences under the infamous Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) scheme. This move comes after a court of appeal decision quashed three prisoners' indeterminate sentences on grounds that their young age and level of maturity were not adequately taken into account at sentencing.

The five individuals in question were all relatively young when sentenced, with none having served more than three-and-a-half years before being referred to the CCRC. Despite this, they have all been locked up for extended periods, raising questions about the fairness and proportionality of their sentences.

IPPs were introduced in 2005 as a way to detain serious offenders who were deemed a risk to public safety. However, they have long been criticized by experts and politicians alike for leaving individuals languishing in prison for minor offenses. In 2012, the regimes were scrapped without retrospective effect, but it appears that some of those affected have not escaped the system.

The CCRC chair, Dame Vera Baird KC, has stated that the principle established in recent court of appeal cases may be applicable to other individuals still serving IPP sentences. She emphasized that anyone who is similarly situated and has exhausted their appeal rights should contact the CCRC for assistance.

This development highlights ongoing concerns about the UK's justice system and the need for greater oversight and accountability. The fact that these five men are among hundreds of people currently receiving indefinite sentences under IPP or equivalent regimes for crimes committed as juveniles raises questions about the fairness and effectiveness of this policy.

In the case of Benjamin Hibbert, Stuart O'Neill, Jay Davis, Luke Ings, and James Ward, their sentences will be reviewed by the court of appeal. Meanwhile, Ings' and Ward's cases will be heard in the crown court. The CCRC has set up specialist teams to review these cases, with an average of 16 IPP or DPP cases being referred each month.

When released from prison, individuals under indefinite licence for crimes committed as juveniles are often subject to recall at any time, even for behavior that is not criminal. This highlights the ongoing need for reform and greater support for those affected by these policies.
 
πŸ€” "The ultimate test of a man's character is how he treats them who can do him no harm." πŸ™ - Haruki Murakami ⏰ These guys have been locked up for way too long, like, what even is the point of serving 3.5 years in prison and then being stuck in limbo forever? It's just not right, you know? The system needs a serious shake-up! 😑
 
I'm not sure if this is a good thing, but I guess it's better than nothing πŸ€”. Five young men getting a second chance at appeal is definitely a step in the right direction. But, I mean, IPP sentences are still pretty harsh, you know? Three-and-a-half years without any real clear reason why they're not eligible for release yet? That just seems kinda unfair 😐.

I'm glad the CCRC is taking on this case, but we need to make sure these guys get a fair shot at having their sentences re-evaluated. And what about all the others who are still stuck in prison under similar regimes? We can't keep letting them languish in there without any hope of release 🚫.

It's also worrying that even after they're released, they'll be on indefinite licence and could be recalled for minor infractions. That's just not right πŸ’”. We need to make sure these guys get the support they need to rebuild their lives, not just lock them up again.

So, while I'm glad this is happening, let's keep pushing for real reform and better support for those affected by policies like IPP 🀞.
 
omg this is so frustrating 😩 those guys have been locked up for ages and it's just not fair ❀️ I mean, they were young when they committed their crimes, what's the point of locking them up forever? πŸ€” the system needs to do better, like, what's the criteria for these indefinite sentences anyway? seems like a bit of a recipe for disaster... 🚨
 
πŸ˜• I'm still thinking about this IPP scheme... it's just so unfair on young guys like those referred to appeal. Three-and-a-half years in? That's ages! And you're right, what's wrong with considering their age and maturity when they were sentenced? It sounds like a recipe for injustice.

I mean, think about it... if someone commits an offense as a juvenile, they should get some leeway, right? It's not like they had the same level of agency or understanding of the consequences back then. And now, all these years later, they're still stuck in limbo, with their lives potentially ruined by a system that's supposed to support them.

We need to take a closer look at how this system works and make sure we're not locking up kids for life over minor offenses. It's just not right. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
OMG 🀯 I'm so shocked to hear about these 5 young men being referred to appeal over their IPP sentences! It's like, hello, they're still young, some of them are barely out of their teens πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ and they've already served a huge chunk of time. It just doesn't seem right that they're stuck in this limbo for so long.

I mean, I get it, safety first and all that, but these guys have committed crimes, yes, but were they fully aware of the consequences? Were their sentences proportionate to the offense? The CCRC needs to dig deeper into this, imo. πŸ€” And what about the impact on these young men's lives? They're not even old enough to know themselves, let alone make decisions about their own futures.

We need to do better than this, you know? We need to find a way to support these guys and help them turn their lives around, rather than just locking them up for life. πŸŒˆπŸ’–
 
Man, this is wild 🀯. I mean, can you believe people are still stuck in prison like this? IPP scheme, yeah right... it sounds like a setup to me 😏. Young guys, just starting their lives, locked up for years over minor offenses. What's the criteria here? Did they really pose a risk or was it just a convenient way to keep them off the streets? πŸ€” And what about those who've already served three-and-a-half years and still got referred to the CCRC? It's like, what are we even doing here? πŸ‘Ž
 
I mean, think about it... These guys were young when they got sentenced under IPP. Like, what's fair about that? They're still out there, serving time for stuff they probably didn't fully understand at the time. It's all a bit dodgy if you ask me πŸ€”. And now, the CCRC is reviewing their cases... yeah, good luck with that. They'll be lucky to get a reduced sentence. I mean, we're still dealing with the aftermath of these schemes 20 years later. It's just not right. The fact that they have to contact the CCRC for help is pretty sad too πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. Just another example of how our justice system can go wrong πŸ˜”
 
I'm genuinely worried about these young blokes who've been locked up for ages under this IPP scheme πŸ€•. It's just not right that they're being sent back to court, especially since they were all pretty young when they got sentenced in the first place πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. The system is supposed to be fair and all that jazz, but it seems like these lads are getting a raw deal. I mean, they've been locked up for three-and-a-half years already, which is a long time. What more evidence do we need that this policy needs a serious overhaul? πŸ€” And what's with the recall thing when they get out? It's like they're still on probation or something 😬. We need to make sure these guys are given a second chance and not stuck in limbo forever πŸ‘Š
 
I'm kinda glad to hear this, but like, really? 5 guys with only 3.5 years under their belt getting referred to appeal? That's still way too long, if you ask me πŸ€”. I mean, we've been saying this for ages - the IPP scheme is a joke, and it's outrageous that these young blokes have had to deal with it all these years.

I'm not gonna lie, though, it's heartening to see the CCRC taking action, especially after those court of appeal decisions quashed some of those older guys' sentences. But what about the rest? When will we start seeing real change?

And don't even get me started on the whole "recall at any time" thing when they get released. That's just not right πŸ˜’. These lads should be given a chance to rebuild their lives, not have some arbitrary decision maker swoop in and mess it all up.

We need more oversight, that's for sure. And we need to make sure these young blokes aren't getting railroaded by the system. Let's keep pushing for reform and support, shall we? πŸ‘
 
πŸ€” I gotta say, it's about time someone took a closer look at this whole IPP scheme. These young guys should've gotten a slap on the wrist instead of being locked up indefinitely. It's just not right that they're still serving time 20+ years later for stuff they did when they were barely out of school πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. The system needs to be overhauled, ASAP! I mean, we know it's supposed to keep the public safe, but at what cost? These kids are paying the price for a policy that's just not fair ⚠️. And can we talk about how messed up the whole recall thing is? Like, if they're on probation, shouldn't they have some actual supervision and support instead of being told to "shut up and behave"? 🀯
 
πŸ€” I'm like totally bummed about this news πŸ€•. Five young men are getting a second chance at appealing their IPP sentences πŸ“œ. It's crazy that they've been locked up for so long just because of their age 😩. The CCRC is doing its thing, reviewing cases and trying to make things right πŸ’Ό. But it's still so frustrating that these guys had to go through all this in the first place πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. I mean, who determines if someone's mature enough for an IPP sentence anyway? It just doesn't seem fair πŸ‘Ž. And what about those who are still serving sentences under similar regimes? They deserve some love ❀️ too. We need more oversight and accountability in our justice system πŸ”. This is why we need to keep pushing for reform πŸš€.
 
πŸ€” what's goin on with them IPP sentences in the UK?? five young blokes gettin a second look from the CCRC after their sentences got quashed due to bein young when they committed the crimes... 16 cases a month, that's crazy! πŸš” it's like the system is still stuck in 2005, forgettin about the youth and how matured they get behind bars. ❄️ these guys gotta have been doin somethin right if they're stuck in there for 3.5 years just for minor offenses... it's just not fair, innit? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
I'm getting really frustrated with this whole IPP scheme 🀯. I mean, five young men, all under 30, sentenced to life without parole for minor offenses? That's just not right. We're talking about people who are still figuring out who they are and what they want to do with their lives being locked up for years on end. It's like we've given up on rehabilitation and just decided to throw the book at them.

And let's be real, these guys have been through a lot, especially considering how young they were when they committed their crimes. I'm not saying that committing a crime is ever okay, but come on, can't we find a way to help them turn their lives around instead of locking them up forever? The CCRC is doing the right thing by reviewing these cases, but we need more than just reviews - we need real change.

It's like our justice system has been rigged against people who make mistakes when they're young. We need to start thinking about the long-term effects of these policies and how they're impacting our society. I'm not asking for much, just some common sense and a willingness to listen to those affected by these policies. πŸ’”
 
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πŸ€” I'm not surprised to see more people being referred to appeal over their IPP sentences... like, shouldn't we be looking at the circumstances of each individual case instead of some blanket policy? πŸ™„ Those five guys were all pretty young when they got sentenced, and now they've been locked up for ages. Is it really fair that they're stuck in a system designed for more serious offenders?

I mean, I get that the UK justice system has its problems, but we need to be careful not to make sweeping statements about an entire policy without considering the complexities of each case. πŸ’‘ What's the actual impact of these sentences on public safety? Is it really worth putting people through this kind of trauma and disruption?

And what's with the lack of transparency around how many people are still serving indefinite sentences under IPP or similar regimes? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ We need to know more about who's affected by these policies and how they're being dealt with. Maybe then we can have a proper discussion about reforming this system... πŸ‘€
 
πŸ€” I'm really troubled by the fact that these young men have been locked up for so long without considering their age and maturity at the time of sentencing πŸ™. It raises questions about what it means to be held accountable as an adult, when we're still growing and developing as humans 🌱. The CCRC's decision is a step in the right direction, but it's also a reminder that our justice system needs more nuance and compassion ❀️. We need to think about the long-term impact of these policies on people who have been shaped by their experiences behind bars πŸ’”. And what does 'fairness' even mean when we're talking about sentences for crimes committed as juveniles? Is it just a matter of numbers, or is there something more at play? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
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