How can Britain regain its manufacturing power? Start thinking like a developing country | Larry Elliott

Rebuilding Britain's manufacturing prowess requires a drastic shift in mindset, akin to that of developing countries. The recent visit by Prime Minister Keir Starmer to China serves as a stark reminder that the UK's manufacturing sector has stagnated, while its service-based economy dominates. This dichotomy is not a coincidence; it stems from the country's historical approach to industrialization.

Thatcherism, which emphasized market forces and deregulation, inadvertently led Britain down a path of outsourcing manufacturing to countries with lower labor costs. The consequences are evident today: services now account for 80% of the economy, dwarfing manufacturing's 8%. This disparity is not only economically unsustainable but also undermines productivity, as service jobs often rely on imported machinery and infrastructure.

To reverse this trend, Britain must adopt a more proactive approach to industrialization. A dedicated economic ministry with significant authority would be instrumental in charting a course for manufacturing rejuvenation. Investment in both public and private sectors will be crucial, particularly if the government is willing to provide subsidies and tax credits to support domestic industries.

A key strategy involves protecting infant industries through measures such as stipulating domestic components for goods sold in Britain, implementing "buy British" procurement policies, or introducing tariffs to safeguard domestic manufacturing. These tactics have been employed by developing countries to foster their own industrial growth.

The crux of the matter lies in adopting a developing country's mindset, recognizing that rebuilding manufacturing requires patience, strategic investment, and active government intervention. The UK's historical approach as a developed nation has led to complacency, whereas a more developing-country-centric approach could yield better results.

Denmark's success with its wind-turbine sector offers a glimmer of hope, demonstrating that small, wealthy nations can still enjoy industrial prosperity. Britain does not have to follow the same trajectory; it can reinvigorate its manufacturing sector through a concerted effort and a willingness to challenge conventional wisdom.

Ultimately, the UK must confront the reality that its manufacturing sector is no longer the dominant force it once was. By embracing a more developing country-oriented approach, the nation can begin to rebuild its industrial base, securing a brighter future for generations to come.
 
I just saw this article about Britain's manufacturing woes 🤔... and I'm like "yep, we're not out of the woods yet". The whole Thatcherism thing is wild - who knew that prioritizing market forces would lead to us losing our industrial edge? 😂 Like, what happened to all those factories and whatnot? It's crazy how services now make up 80% of the economy... 🤯 I mean, we're not even making any money off our own stuff anymore. I'm all for investing in domestic industries, though 💸 - maybe if we start producing more ourselves, we can stop relying on imported goods and whatnot. And tariffs aren't a bad idea either 🚫... it's just weird that we didn't think of that before 🙄. Anyway, the article does make a good point about adopting a developing country's mindset - like, why are we so stuck in our ways? 😅 Can we please just get some momentum going on manufacturing and leave this service-based economy thing behind? 💪
 
Ugh, I'm so over this forum's layout 🤯. Can't we just have a simple, easy-to-read thread without all the unnecessary categories and headers? And another thing, why do we have to create new threads every time someone wants to comment on an old post? It's so annoying! 😩

Anyway, back to the topic at hand... I think the article makes some valid points about Britain's manufacturing sector. We need a more proactive approach to industrialization, and that includes government support for domestic industries. The "buy British" policies they're suggesting could be a good start. But what really worries me is how our forum is handling this type of discussion. It's hard to follow along when there are so many different threads and comments scattered everywhere 🤔. Can't we just have a nice, straightforward conversation? 💬
 
I don't usually comment but I think this is kinda wild that Britain's manufacturing industry has stagnated so much 🤯. I mean, we've always been taught that services are where it's at, but what if that's not the only way to be successful? 💸 It makes sense that they need a more proactive approach, like creating a special economic ministry to help them out 💪. And I'm all for protecting domestic industries by making it harder to import stuff 🚫. Maybe if they take inspiration from countries like Denmark, who managed to grow their wind-turbine industry, then maybe Britain can find its own winning formula too 💨. The key is to be patient and strategic about it, not just expect everything to magically fix itself 😅.
 
🤔 So like I've been hearing from some of my mates who actually work in manufacturing, they're saying that the government's all talk and no action when it comes to supporting domestic industries 🙄. They need to start investing more in stuff like renewable energy and advanced tech sectors, 'cause those are where the jobs are going to be created 🔋💻. And yeah, I get why there needs to be a bit of protectionism with tariffs and all that, but you don't want to stifle innovation 🚫. It's like, you need a balance between supporting domestic industries and not being too rigid with trade policies. Makes sense to me 👍
 
🤯 Britain's been sleepwalking into becoming a service-based economy and it's time to wake up! The PM's trip to China is like a kick in the pants – we need to start building our own industries, not just outsourcing to others 🚫. Investing in public & private sectors is key, and subsidies/tax credits for domestic industries would be a huge boost 💸. Protecting infant industries with "buy British" policies or tariffs makes sense too 🔒. We can't keep following the same old approach and expecting different results... it's time to think like developing countries 🌎! Denmark's wind turbine success shows we don't have to follow the traditional path – let's get proactive & challenge conventional wisdom 💪!
 
man I'm not surprised about britain's manufacturing situation tbh it's been struggling for ages 🤯 i remember my granddad talking about how his dad used to work in the shipyards back in the day but now it's all just a shadow of what it used to be 💔 anyway i think this developing country approach makes sense if they're gonna invest heavily and provide subsidies it's not like britain hasn't done that before lol remember the whole 'apprenticeships' thing? 🤓 still we need to see some real action from the government, not just more words on paper 🗺️
 
omg u guys r forgetting about our proud industrial heritage 🤯🔩 i mean we used to be the workshop of the world for a reason! but ok i get it we did get complacent under thatcher's regime and now our manufacturing sector is basically dead 💀 but i think its time for us to take a page out of denmark's book and invest in wind turbines or whatever industry we wanna focus on 🌬️👍 we need more than just subsidies tho, we need bold action like tariffs and protectionist policies to keep our industries competitive 🔒 let's not forget were not china or south korea here, were britain 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 we can do this! 💪
 
I think we need a major reboot 🔄 of our manufacturing strategy ASAP. Outourcing to China and other countries has left us with a lopsided economy that's not sustainable in the long run. We need a government-backed plan to invest in our own industries, not just throw money at startups 🤑. A "buy British" policy would be a great start, but we also need to look into reducing labor costs and making manufacturing more competitive on a global stage 💼. And can we please stop being so afraid of taking risks? It's time to think outside the box (or in this case, the factory) 🤔!
 
🤣 I mean, who knew rebuilding Britain's manufacturing would require adopting a mindset from those developing countries, aka China? It's like they say, "if you want something done right, do it yourself"... or in this case, copy the Chinese 🚀💼! But seriously, 80% of the economy being services is pretty wild. I guess that's what happens when you let Thatcherism run amok and outsourcing becomes a thing... outsourcing your skills, not just manufacturing jobs 😂. Investing in domestic industries with subsidies and tax credits sounds like a solid plan to me. Maybe we can even get Elon Musk on board 🚀👍. On a more serious note, it's good that Denmark is doing well with their wind-turbine sector, maybe we can learn from them... or just steal their ideas 😜.
 
I'm not sure I agree with the idea of adopting a developing country's mindset but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be proactive about reviving our manufacturing sector 💡. I think it's time for the UK government to take a more hands-on approach, investing in public and private sectors alike 📈. But, let's not forget, Denmark's success was largely due to its small-scale, high-tech industry focus - we shouldn't be trying to emulate that exactly 🤔. Maybe instead, we can learn from their strategy of working with local communities and suppliers to create a more sustainable ecosystem 🌿. The problem is, our manufacturing sector has been stagnant for far too long... let's get some momentum going! ⚡
 
I'm like "seriously? 🤯" about this UK thingy... they gotta rethink their manufacturing game, you know? I mean, it's all services and no goods 📈. What happened to the good ol' factory days? They need to get back to basics and invest in some real industries, not just phone homes and whatnot 📱💻. And those subsidies and tax credits? Yeah, that's a solid move! 👍 China's got nothing on us now 😎. We can be like Denmark, all wind-powery and stuff 🌬️, but we need to start now, you feel me? It's time for the UK to get its mojo back 💪.
 
🤔 I think its about time they took a page out of those Asian countries' books... you know, invest in their own industries instead of just importing stuff and outsourcing jobs. I mean, 80% of the economy is services? That's crazy! We need to get more manufacturing going on ASAP. They're right, Thatcherism was a big part of that, but it doesn't have to be our legacy too... we can make it a new one. And yeah, they're talking about investing in both public and private sectors, which sounds like a solid plan. 💸
 
🤔 The UK's manufacturing woes are real 🚨. I mean, 80% of the economy in services? That's crazy talk 😱! I think we need to shift our mindset like they say in China, invest more in industries and less on imports 📈. A dedicated economic ministry would be awesome 💼, let them make some tough decisions and provide support where needed 🤝.

I love the idea of protecting infant industries with domestic components policies 🔒 or tariffs 🚫. It's not about being protectionist, it's about supporting homegrown businesses 👍. And Denmark's wind turbine sector is a great example 🌬️, we can learn from them 💡.

The thing is, we've been too complacent as a developed nation 🙄, thinking that manufacturing will always be easy 🤦‍♂️. But it's not 💪, it takes patience and investment 💸. Let's get behind this initiative and challenge conventional wisdom 🔥! Britain can rise again 👑
 
I think we need to chill out about this whole 'Britain should just copy China' thing 🙏. I mean, sure, China's manufacturing sector is huge and all that, but it's not like the UK needs to abandon its service-based economy entirely. It's like saying, "Hey, just because you're good at something doesn't mean you can't improve other areas too!" 🤔 We should be looking for ways to complement our services with a strong manufacturing sector, not replace them. And let's not forget, we've got some amazing industries already, like the wind-turbine sector in Denmark! 💨 It's all about finding that balance and being proactive about industrialization, rather than just reacting to what other countries are doing.
 
I'm thinking, mate... 🤔 we need to shake things up in Britain's economy. It's time to acknowledge that our manufacturing woes are a national issue and not just a 'services sector' problem 📈. I mean, have you seen the state of our high streets lately? It's like a ghost town, innit? 👻

Thatcherism might've been a good idea back in the day, but it's time to acknowledge its shortcomings. Outsourcing manufacturing has led us down a path of dependency on imported goods and services 🚫. We need to take responsibility for our own industries and invest in the future.

I'm not saying we should go full-on protectionist, but a bit of 'buy British' policy wouldn't go amiss 🛍️. And what's with the lack of transparency around trade deals? We deserve to know how our tax money is being spent 🤦‍♂️.

Let's get real, mate... Britain can't just sit back and watch its manufacturing sector wither away 🔴. We need a bold, developing-country-inspired approach to industrialization. It's time for a new economic strategy that puts the nation first 🇬🇧.
 
I think we need to take a step back and rethink our approach to manufacturing in Britain 🤔. I mean, 80% of our economy is services, which is okay, but what about all the jobs and industries that are being lost because of it? We can't just keep outsourcing everything and expecting it to be fine 💸. We need a new plan, like the ones developing countries use to grow their own manufacturing sectors 🌱. It's not going to be easy, but if we work together and invest in our industries, I think we can make it happen 🤝.
 
man I'm not sure about this "rebuilding Britain's manufacturing prowess" business 🤔... like, China didn't just magically become a manufacturing powerhouse overnight, right? it was a gradual thing that involved government support and investment in public sector industries 📈 they're still doing it today. we can't just expect the UK to do the same without putting in some serious effort and resources 💸 I mean, have you seen the state of our high streets lately? it's like a ghost town 🛍️... we need to think about what kind of economy we want to build for ourselves, not just copy someone else's model 👀
 
🤔 I think we need to start by acknowledging that our traditional "service-based economy" isn't the only game in town 🤑. I mean, we've been so focused on outsourcing and making it cheap that we forgot how to make stuff ourselves 💼! But I'm all for a new approach - let's invest in those manufacturing industries and give them the support they need 🤝. It's not about copying China's model (although, yeah, maybe it could be a good starting point 😂), but more about finding what works for us and adapting to the changing world of trade and tech 🌐. And can we please protect those domestic industries? The "buy British" thing has always been a bit awkward, but if it means supporting our own workers and innovation, let's make it happen 💪!
 
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