How HMRC and insurance firms make bereavement even harder | Letters

A Widowed Woman's Experience of Inaccurate Tax Calculations by HMRC - "Bereavement Penalty"

A letter from a Manchester woman, Dr Susan Treagus, reveals how she was incorrectly told her annual income had risen to over £100,000 after the loss of her partner just months prior. This drastic change was made possible through automated computer-generated calculations, rather than human intervention.

Following her husband's death in March this year, Mrs Treagus received two letters from HMRC in April, each informing her of a new personal tax code for 2025-26. It wasn't until she examined her bank statements that May and June that she discovered the substantial change - her small occupational pension had nearly halved, with an extra £62,000 added to her income, pushing it into the higher tax bracket.

An investigation by HMRC revealed that this calculation was based on a computer-generated assessment of Mrs Treagus's income, using data from February and March, which were likely to be linked to funeral expenses or other personal financial matters. The person she spoke to explained that the algorithm had been used, but offered no explanation or reassurance about how this process worked.

The woman remains shocked by HMRC's handling of her situation, particularly given the significant impact it has had on her income as a newly widowed person. She questions why such drastic and potentially life-changing decisions are made without human intervention, raising concerns about the accountability and transparency of automated systems in tax calculations.

Her experience raises questions about the role of AI and algorithms in public services, particularly those with direct financial implications for individuals. As one letter writer notes, who would have corrected this mistake if it hadn't been for their own efforts? The incident highlights the need for greater oversight and human involvement in high-stakes decision-making processes to ensure accuracy and fairness.

Mrs Treagus's story is just one of many examples of how changes in insurance policies after a bereavement can be particularly challenging, as highlighted by another letter writer. Her case serves as a reminder that even seemingly minor adjustments can have significant consequences for an individual's financial situation, especially during times of vulnerability such as those immediately following the loss of a partner.
 
🤦‍♀️ ugh, this is so frustrating! i mean, i get it, computers and all that, but come on! how hard is it to double-check calculations? 🤔 it's not like we're talking about some complex financial model here... just a simple tax calculation. and now dr treagus is dealing with the fallout of having her whole life turned upside down because of one mistake. 😱 shouldn't our gov be doing better than this? at least have some kind of human review process in place before these drastic changes are made to people's lives. 🤝
 
OMG 🤯 you guys need to know this! So there's this woman who just lost her hubby and HMRC (tax people) automatically changes her tax code to like £100k+ without even asking! They're using these fancy algorithms to do it, but honestly, that's no excuse for not having human review. I mean, can you imagine if they'd told her the mistake was on them? 🤔 Would she have gotten that pension cut in the first place? It's so crucial we have people checking this stuff, especially when it comes to money and important life changes. We shouldn't just rely on computers to make life-or-death decisions (or at least life-changing ones). Our tax system is like, super complex, but someone gotta oversee these algorithms to ensure they're not messing with people's lives 🙄
 
😱 I cant believe this is still happening in 2025! Automated systems are meant to help us, not confuse and mess with our lives. 🤯 Imagine getting a letter saying you're now earning £100k after losing your partner - it's just heartbreaking and unfair. 💔 The fact that they relied on computer-generated calculations without human review is just mind-boggling. We need more transparency and oversight in these systems, especially when it comes to our finances and well-being. 🤝 It's not just about accuracy, but also about compassion and understanding during difficult times. 🌈
 
OMG, I'm totally shook 🤯💸 just hearing about this! Automated tax calculations can be SO flawed 🤖😬, and it's crazy that Mrs Treagus was misinformed like that after her hubby passed away 💔. It's like, can't we have human oversight to catch these kinds of errors? 🤔👀 I mean, who's responsible when an AI system gets it wrong? 😩 Shouldn't there be a safety net in place to prevent this kind of mistake from happening again? 🚨💡 Also, I'm so sorry that Mrs Treagus is going through this stress and uncertainty after her loss. 💕 Let's hope HMRC takes steps to improve their systems and ensure accuracy 👍💯 #TaxCalculation Fail #AIAccountability #HumanOversightMatters
 
🤦‍♀️ I mean, come on! Automated systems can't be trusted to make life-changing decisions like this, right? It's just not fair to someone who's already going through a tough time like losing a partner. They shouldn't have to fight to get their taxes sorted out. I feel for Dr Treagus, she must be really stressed about this. And what's the point of using algorithms for tax calculations if they're not even double-checking the info? It's just basic common sense, you know? 🤷‍♀️
 
idk about this... i mean, yeah, it makes total sense that they'd use automated computer-generated calculations... nope, wait, that doesn't sound right... how can you be sure that's what happened? maybe it was just a human error or something 😒 I'm all for efficiency and streamlining processes, but not if it means people are getting messed with like Mrs Treagus. on the other hand, i mean, think about it, computers are way faster and more accurate than humans... unless... unless that's exactly what they're trying to do - hide behind technology because they don't want to deal with all the potential human fallibility? 🤔
 
🤦‍♂️ I mean come on, £100k? That's like something you'd expect to make in a year at least 5-10 years from now! What's going on here? Did HMRC just get lazy with their calculations or what? 🤔 And automated system that can't even get it right? Like, have they even tested this thing? 🤷‍♂️ The fact that it was based on funeral expenses and other personal financial matters should've been red flag enough. Just wondering how many other people are getting screwed over by these algorithms... 😒
 
It's just crazy 🤯 how one mistake in tax calculations can affect someone's life so much. Like, £62,000 is a huge chunk of change and it's unfair that this woman was almost pushed into a higher tax bracket after her husband passed away 🤕. It makes you wonder if these automated systems are even reliable or just relying on data from months ago 💻. The fact that she had to do some digging herself to catch the error is frustrating, but at least it's good she did or else who knows what would've happened 😬. We need more human oversight in these situations to prevent such mistakes and ensure fairness for people going through tough times 👥.
 
I feel so bad for this woman, it's like she was punched in the gut with no warning sign 🤕. I mean, losing a partner is tough enough, you don't need some computer messing up your tax calculation and making you think you're a whole different person financially 💸. And what really gets my goat is that they used automated calculations, which is just not good enough, especially for something as important as taxes 🚫. I'm all for efficiency and stuff, but come on, can't we have humans double-check these things? It's like, who's gonna catch this mistake if someone doesn't? Anyway, it's just a clear case of human error (or lack thereof) and they need to step up their game 👍.
 
OMG, THIS IS SO INSANE!!! 🤯 i cant believe they just threw her tax code into a computer algorithm and hoped for the best?!?! the fact that she had to dig through her own bank statements to figure out what was going on is just ridiculous... and now she's stuck with this huge change that's gotta be killing her... especially after losing her partner, it's just so unfair 🤷‍♀️ i think we need to rethink our reliance on AI and algorithms in public services, they gotta have some human oversight or else people like Mrs Treagus are gonna get screwed over big time 😬
 
I'm still in shock over this story about the widowed woman who got her tax calculations totally wrong 🤯. It's just not right that automated computers made a mistake like that and changed her income so drastically. I mean, can you imagine if someone did that with your paycheck? 😱 The fact that it was only spotted by Mrs Treagus herself when she looked at her bank statements is just crazy. And to make matters worse, the person from HMRC basically said the algorithm was used but didn't explain how it worked... what even is that? 🤔 It's like they're saying "oh, we made a mistake, but who knows how?" Not good enough! We need more human oversight in these kinds of situations to make sure things get done right. And can we also talk about how insensitive this is for someone who's just going through a tough time after losing their partner? 😔
 
🤔 I'm so frustrated with this situation. A woman loses her partner and gets hit with a massive tax hike because some computer algorithm messed up her income calculation. It's not just about the money - it's about how she's already struggling to cope after losing her loved one. No human intervention? That's just not right. And what really gets me is that this mistake was only caught when she looked at her own bank statements, like she needed to be a forensic accountant to spot it herself! 📊 The government needs to take a closer look at how these automated systems work and make sure they're accurate before affecting people's lives like this. We need more transparency and oversight to prevent similar mistakes in the future 💡
 
I'm telling you, this whole thing with HMRC and the bereavement penalty is just a recipe for disaster 🤦‍♀️. I mean, who programmed these algorithms to think that adding £62,000 to someone's income because they've lost their partner in life is a good idea? It's like throwing a bunch of numbers into a blender and hitting puree without even checking the ingredients first 🍹.

And what really gets my goat is that it was only spotted by Mrs Treagus herself when she looked at her bank statements. I mean, who would have thought to double-check if they hadn't been paying attention? It's not exactly rocket science, but apparently, it's too much for HMRC to handle on its own 🤔.

We need more human oversight in these situations, trust me. These automated systems can be so infallible... or so I'm told 😅.
 
🤔 what's going on here?! HMRC is using automated computer-generated calculations to make life-changing decisions about people's tax codes without actually checking the info first? that's crazy! 🤯 it's one thing to have machines help with some stuff, but when it comes to something as important as someone's tax code, shouldn't there be a human touch? 👥 especially for widows and widowers who are already dealing with so much emotional stress after losing their partner. how can they trust that the computer is making the right decision? 🤷‍♀️
 
I'm shocked this is still happening in 2025 🤯. I mean, come on, automated tax calculations? It's just not that hard to get it right. And what really gets my goat is that Mrs Treagus didn't even realize her income had changed until she looked at her bank statements herself. Can you imagine if the government was making decisions like this without human oversight? It's just crazy talk 💁‍♀️.

And let's be real, this isn't an isolated incident. I've heard of people getting their tax refunds wrong or being overcharged by millions because of some fancy algorithm. No wonder there are still so many people struggling to make ends meet. We need more human oversight in these systems, not less 🤝. And what about all the people who can't even be bothered to look at their bank statements? Poor Mrs Treagus got taken advantage of while others might just get lucky and stumble upon the mistake themselves 😅.

Anyway, I'm calling out HMRC on this one. How do you plan to fix these problems? Better yet, how are you going to prevent them from happening in the future? 💬
 
I feel so bad for Dr Susan Treagus 🤕, but I'm also thinking this could be a major opportunity for HMRC to improve their systems and make them more transparent 💡. Like, if they can mess up someone's tax calculation by half 🤑, what else might be going on behind the scenes? It's actually kind of reassuring that they're having to investigate themselves because it means they're taking mistakes seriously 😊. And maybe this will lead to more human oversight and accountability in their automated systems 💻. I mean, who knows, maybe AI and algorithms can be improved with some good old-fashioned human feedback 🤝?
 
🤔 I'm so sorry to hear about Dr Susan Treagus's experience with HMRC 🙅‍♀️. It's crazy that her income was altered by an automated computer calculation without any human review or explanation 💻. I mean, can you imagine if this happened to you? 😱 Would you even know what went wrong and how to fix it?

I think the government needs to take a closer look at these automated systems and make sure they're not making life-changing decisions for people without proper oversight 👀. It's one thing to save money on computers, but it's another thing entirely when it comes to people's livelihoods 💸.

And what really gets me is that Dr Treagus had to do all the legwork to figure out what was going on with her tax calculations 📊. I mean, shouldn't HMRC be doing their job and making sure these things are accurate? It's not like she was just winging it or anything... 😒

I guess this is a good reminder that even when we're trying to help people, we need to make sure we're not causing more problems 🤝. And in this case, I think HMRC should be looking at ways to improve their processes and make sure they're doing better for their customers 💯.
 
I think it's crazy that HMRC is so quick to trust automated systems over human judgment 💸🤖. I mean, who needs human oversight when you've got fancy algorithms, right? 🙄 It just doesn't seem fair that Mrs Treagus was left to deal with this mess on her own and had to dig through her bank statements to find out what was going on. And now she's stuck with a higher tax bracket and less pension - it's just not right 😒. We should be more concerned about how these systems are being developed and tested, rather than just relying on them to get the job done 🤔. It's time for some good old-fashioned human intervention in these high-stakes decision-making processes 💪
 
OMG, this is so concerning! 🤯 I mean, can you imagine getting a letter saying your income has jumped to £100k just because you lost your partner? It's like, hello, that's not even close to being true! And to make matters worse, it was all done by a computer without anyone checking it for errors. That's just not right. I'm shocked she didn't speak up more during her conversation with the person at HMRC. Like, what did they do, just nod and smile and say "oh yeah, that makes sense"? 🙄

I don't get why these automated systems can't be checked for errors before they're sent out to people. I mean, we have enough trouble dealing with tax returns without computers making mistakes. And it's not like this is the first time - there have been plenty of other cases where HMRC has made similar mistakes. It's just a recipe for disaster.

I think we need more human oversight on these kinds of decisions. Like, someone needs to review these calculations before they're sent out to people who might be relying on them. And if you make a mistake, you should be able to correct it. But with computers doing the math, it's just too easy for things to go wrong.
 
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