This is a transcript of an interview between Steven Levy and Caroline Haskins from WIRED, discussing the intersection of technology and politics with Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir.
The conversation starts with a discussion about competition in the tech industry, with Karp stating that Palantir's main competitor is not other companies, but rather "the woke left and the woke right" who are trying to hurt the company through political means.
Levy expresses his surprise at this answer, as he had been expecting a more traditional competitive analysis. He also notes that Karp's views on competition are part of a broader trend in Silicon Valley, where companies are increasingly prioritizing their interests over regulatory concerns and public discourse.
The conversation then turns to the topic of enshittification, with Levy explaining how big tech companies have become adept at extracting value from users through targeted advertising and data collection. He notes that this can lead to a decline in user experience and a sense of frustration among users.
Haskins chimes in, noting her own experience with Spotify's recent changes to its interface, which she finds annoying. She ultimately decides to switch to Tidal, citing its superior music library and features.
The interview concludes with Levy and Haskins discussing their own WIRED/TIRED segments, where they discuss what is new and exciting (WIRED) versus what is old and tired (TIRED). They both agree that Spotify's recent changes are a great example of enshittification, leading them to switch to alternative music streaming services.
The conversation starts with a discussion about competition in the tech industry, with Karp stating that Palantir's main competitor is not other companies, but rather "the woke left and the woke right" who are trying to hurt the company through political means.
Levy expresses his surprise at this answer, as he had been expecting a more traditional competitive analysis. He also notes that Karp's views on competition are part of a broader trend in Silicon Valley, where companies are increasingly prioritizing their interests over regulatory concerns and public discourse.
The conversation then turns to the topic of enshittification, with Levy explaining how big tech companies have become adept at extracting value from users through targeted advertising and data collection. He notes that this can lead to a decline in user experience and a sense of frustration among users.
Haskins chimes in, noting her own experience with Spotify's recent changes to its interface, which she finds annoying. She ultimately decides to switch to Tidal, citing its superior music library and features.
The interview concludes with Levy and Haskins discussing their own WIRED/TIRED segments, where they discuss what is new and exciting (WIRED) versus what is old and tired (TIRED). They both agree that Spotify's recent changes are a great example of enshittification, leading them to switch to alternative music streaming services.