Study questions whether Detroit sales tax is worth it - Detroit Metro Times

Detroiters face another tax hike question, as the city considers a new sales and use tax.

A recent study from the Citizens Research Council of Michigan suggests that Detroit's proposed tax may not be worth it due to the limited revenue generated and significant barriers to adoption. The analysis estimates that the 1% sales and use tax could raise between $42 million and $72 million annually, which is only about 5% or less of the city's budget.

The study was produced at the request of the Detroit City Council's Legislative Policy Division, seeking innovative ways to increase city revenues without placing an undue burden on residents. The report argues that broader access to local taxes could improve the fiscal health of large cities and counties.

Detroit already has multiple local taxes, including a city income tax, casino wagering taxes, and utility surcharges, in addition to county and state levies. This layered approach means Detroit residents are among the highest taxed in the state, according to the report.

The study's authors suggest that estimating potential revenue is complicated due to Michigan not tracking sales tax collections by city and visitor spending being hard to measure. They employed two approaches: one based on household retail spending estimates and another attempting to capture a wider range of taxable activity beyond retail goods.

However, even if Detroit decides the money is worth it, a local sales tax would require major state action first. This includes amending the state Constitution, adopting new statutes, enacting an ordinance, and voter approval of a new tax.

The study's author, Madhu Anderson, notes that the path to adopting a local sales tax "is daunting" and may be better suited for levying at county or regional levels to maximize potential revenue and minimize economic disruptions.

Detroit is currently working on raising service levels in the coming years while planning for major obligations ahead. The city aims to put services "on par with surrounding communities," make pension payments that are again "a city responsibility after a 10-year hiatus," and capture economic benefits from growth in visitor activity downtown.

However, the report also highlights that Michigan's municipal finance structure relies heavily on property taxes that are limited by state law. This limits local governments' options to levy local taxes, especially in communities with weaker tax bases.

For now, the study does not urge Detroit to rush towards a ballot proposal to raise the sales tax. It leaves city and state leaders to weigh whether an additional $42 million to $72 million annually is worth pursuing a constitutional amendment, new statutes, a local ordinance, and a citywide vote.
 
I'm so confused about this whole thing πŸ€”... Detroit is trying to raise taxes again, which means their residents will have to pay more for stuff they buy or use. I don't think it's fair that they already have so many taxes on top of each other, and now they're considering adding another one? It seems like a lot of hassle just to get some extra money πŸ€‘... I mean, is it really worth it if the city won't even have all the money in the end? The study says it might not be that much, but still... it's a lot of work and potentially hurtful for people who are already struggling πŸ’Έ. And what about the state Constitution? That sounds super complicated πŸ“š... I just don't get why they can't figure out a better way to raise money without making their residents pay even more πŸ˜•
 
omg this tax hike thing is getting so out of hand in detroit 🀯 i mean i get it we need more funding for services but 1% sales tax? that's just another burden on residents already paying thru the nose for everything from income to utility surcharges. and what's up with michigan not tracking sales tax collections by city? that's some serious state-level inefficiency πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

i think madhu anderson's words about county or regional levels being better suited for levying a local sales tax ring true - we need more money, but do we really want to put the weight of it on residents' shoulders? can't we explore other options like increasing state funding or implementing a more progressive income tax system? πŸ€”
 
Ugh, another tax hike for Detroiter's 😩 They're already gettin' hit with like 6 different taxes already... πŸ€‘ Can't they just simplify the system instead of addin' more? πŸ’Έ I mean, I get it, the city needs to fund its services and whatnot, but do we really need a new tax on top of all this? πŸ€” It's gonna affect low-income fams the most, you know? πŸ‘₯ And if they decide to push for it anyway, good luck with tryin' to pass it through the state legislature... 🚫
 
Ugh, come on... another tax hike in Detroit? Like, can't they think of anything else to do? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ I mean, the study says it's only gonna bring in like $42 million or whatever, which is peanuts compared to what they're already paying. And it's not like they don't have enough taxes already - they've got city income tax, casino wagering taxes, and utility surcharges too... it's like they're trying to squeeze every last penny out of the residents. πŸ€‘

And don't even get me started on how hard it is to adopt a local sales tax in Michigan. I mean, you gotta amend the state Constitution, pass new laws, get a local ordinance passed, and then get voter approval... yeah right, like that's gonna happen anytime soon. πŸ˜’ It's just so much work for what? $42 million? That's not even enough to cover all the services they want to raise in the next few years.

I'm all for the city trying to improve its finances, but can't they think of more creative solutions than just slapping another tax on residents? πŸ€”
 
Ugh I'm so done with this whole tax hike situation in Detroit πŸ™„! Like how are they even considering raising taxes again? It's already super hard for people to afford living in the city as it is. And now they're thinking of adding another tax that could potentially raise only like $42 million to $72 million annually? Come on, that's barely enough to cover a fraction of their budget πŸ€‘. I mean I get that they want to make some extra cash, but do they really have to put the burden on residents who are already struggling? It's like, don't they know how much it's going to affect people's daily lives?

And what's with all these layers of taxes already in place? They're basically already taxing their residents to death πŸ€‘. And now they want to add another one? It just doesn't make sense. I mean I can see why the study is saying that local sales tax might not be worth it, because it's hard to estimate and there are so many barriers to adoption. It's like trying to navigate a maze blindfolded 🀯.

I don't know about you guys, but if I were in Detroit right now, I'd be totally opposed to raising taxes again. I mean, what's next? A tax on breathing air or something? πŸ˜‚ It just seems so ridiculous. I hope city and state leaders can come up with a better solution that doesn't put the squeeze on residents even more 🀝.
 
I don't think this is a good idea at all πŸ€”. They're proposing another tax hike on top of the existing ones? That's just gonna put more burden on the people who are already struggling to make ends meet. And what's with the $42 million to $72 million estimate, anyway? It's like, yeah, we need some extra cash, but how about we cut back on some of that wasteful spending instead? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I mean, the city's already got a lot on its plate trying to improve services and whatnot. Do they really think an extra 1% sales tax is gonna make that happen? 🚫 I'm all for innovation and finding new ways to increase revenue, but this just feels like another band-aid solution without addressing the root of the problem.
 
I'm totally down with exploring alternative revenue streams for Detroit, but we gotta consider the complexities of implementing a sales tax. The numbers might not add up, financially speaking πŸ€‘. I mean, even if we assume the higher end of that $42-72 million estimate, it's still a relatively small chunk compared to the city's overall budget.

It's also worth noting that Michigan's municipal finance structure is already pretty limited by state law, so it's not like they have a lot of wiggle room to start adding more local taxes. The fact that Detroit already has multiple levies on residents just highlights how complicated this process can get 🀯.

I'm curious to see how city leaders and the state legislature weigh in on this – do we really want to go through all the hassle of amending the state Constitution, adopting new statutes, and getting voter approval? It's a tough sell, in my opinion 😐.
 
I'm curious about this whole thing... I mean, Detroit's got some major financial issues, no doubt. 5% of their budget? That's not a lot considering how much they need to fix things up around the city. But at the same time, $42 million to $72 million is still better than nothing, right? The problem is, it's gonna be super hard to get that money through all the hoops they need to jump through - state constitution, ordinances, voter approval... ugh 🀯. It's like trying to get a team of players to work together without any clear communication πŸ‘₯. And then there's the issue with property taxes being limited by state law... it's like they're stuck in this perpetual cycle of financial limbo πŸ”„.
 
"Variety is the spice of life" πŸ’ΈπŸ€”

I mean, think about it, Detroit already got so many taxes, like 5% or less gonna make that much of a difference? It's just not worth pushing for another tax hike when they're trying to improve services and all. And with the state limiting their options, I don't see how this is gonna work out πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
πŸ€‘ I think this is a whole thing... they're thinking of adding another tax on top of all the others already in Detroit 🀯 like, do we really need that extra cash? I mean, 5% of the budget ain't exactly breaking the bank πŸ’Έ and if it's just gonna get absorbed into the city's existing taxes, what's the point? πŸ€” Plus, have you seen how many taxes they've already got going on? It feels like we're getting taxed to death πŸ’€
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole situation 🀯... I mean, Detroit's been through so much, but another tax hike just feels like too much on top of everything else πŸ’Έ. The study says it'll only bring in $42-72 million a year, which is basically pennies compared to the city's massive budget πŸ“Š. And now you're telling me that we need a constitutional amendment and all this other stuff just to make it happen? πŸ˜‚ It feels like too much hoops to jump through.

I do get what they're trying to say though - the city needs more revenue, and if this is their best shot... but what about all the other factors at play here? Property taxes are already limited, so how's this gonna help with that? πŸ€” And what about the impact on residents, who might just be like "nope, not again" πŸ’Έ. It feels like they're gonna have to get a lot more creative if they wanna make this work... or maybe just stick with what they've got for now 😐
 
πŸ€” I'm all for supporting Detroit's efforts to boost revenue, but let's be real... a 1% sales tax? It's just not enough. We already got multiple taxes in the city, it's like trying to squeeze blood from a stone at this point 😩. The report makes some valid points about visitor spending and household retail spending, but I still think we're underestimating the potential revenue here. And what really gets me is that state action would be required too 🀯. Like, have you seen the hoops Detroit has to jump through just to make some basic changes? It's like they're intentionally trying to slow down progress πŸ˜’. Still, I trust Madhu Anderson and her team to provide a solid analysis... but let's keep an open mind here πŸ‘€. Maybe we can find a better solution that doesn't involve adding more taxes on top of things 🀝.
 
I'm skeptical about implementing another tax hike in Detroit πŸ€”. A 1% sales and use tax might not be enough to make up for the city's financial woes considering Michigan's already complex municipal finance structure πŸ’Έ. With multiple levies on top of each other, residents are indeed among the heaviest taxed in the state πŸ“ˆ. It's also worth noting that estimating revenue is complicated due to Michigan's lack of tracking sales tax collections by city 😐. The study's authors make a valid point that adopting a local sales tax requires major state action, which could be a hurdle for Detroit πŸ’₯. Perhaps it would be more effective for the city to explore other options, like partnering with surrounding counties or regions, to maximize revenue without disrupting the economy 🀝.
 
πŸ€” I don't know about these new taxes in Detroit... They're already paying so much on the city income tax, casino wagering taxes, and utility surcharges. Adding another sales tax would just make their lives even more complicated. And what's with all the hoops they have to jump through to get a local tax? It sounds like it'd be a real hassle for them πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ. I guess it's good that they're looking into ways to boost revenue, but do they really need another layer of taxes? I'm not sure... 😊
 
I gotta say, another tax hike in Detroit? 🀯 That's just not cool fam. Back in my day, we didn't need no 10 new taxes to take care of the city. They're already struggling with debt and whatnot. I mean, have you seen the state of their budget? It's like they're trying to break some kinda record or somethin' πŸ€‘.

Now, I'm not saying it's all doom and gloom, but I do think the city needs to find a way to make up for lost revenue somewhere else. Like, why are property taxes so limited in Michigan? That's just crazy talk! πŸ€ͺ And don't even get me started on how hard it is to track visitor spending. It's like trying to count all the grains of sand on the beach or somethin' πŸ˜‚.

I'm not saying no to a sales tax, but I do think they need to be more careful with how they're implementin' it. Maybe instead of goin' straight for the citywide vote, they could try gettin' some input from the community first? Just sayin'. πŸ€”
 
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