Two Australian police officers were killed in an ambush. It was deemed terrorism – but an inquest says otherwise

Australian Police Ambush: Inquest Reveals Delusional Beliefs Behind Deadly Confrontation

A bizarre case of mistaken identity and delusional paranoia led to the deaths of two Australian police officers in an ambush on a remote property three years ago. Initially, the Queensland Police Service described the incident as a "religiously motivated terrorist attack," but a coronial inquest has now revealed that the perpetrators were driven by paranoid delusions rather than terrorism.

The Train family, consisting of Gareth, Stacey, and Nathaniel, spent over a year preparing for an ambush against police officers who came to serve a missing person's report. They believed they needed to defend themselves and their property from what they saw as an evil advance on them. The coroner's findings indicate that the Trains were suffering from a shared psychotic disorder known as "folie à trois," in which they became increasingly paranoid and delusional.

According to forensic psychiatrist Dr. Andrew Aboud, who gave evidence during the inquest, the Trains' actions were motivated by a "morally insane" ideology, driven by their own fears and misconceptions about the world. They believed that police officers wore "meat suits" and were demons, and saw themselves as defenders of God's will.

The incident began when four police officers from two different stations arrived at the remote property to serve an arrest warrant for Nathaniel Train, who was wanted on suspicion of assault. The Trains were in ambush positions, armed with high-powered rifles, and opened fire on the police officers as they entered the property. Six people died, including all three members of the Train family, four police officers, and one civilian bystander.

The coroner's findings reject claims that the incident was a terrorist attack, saying instead that it was an "act of self-defense" carried out by people who were struggling with mental illness. The inquest has made several recommendations for improving police procedures to prevent similar incidents, including mandatory mental health assessments for firearms license applicants and better training for officers handling emergency calls.

However, the coroner's rejection of terrorism charges has sparked debate about how law enforcement agencies should respond to increasingly online radicalized individuals who pose a threat to public safety. Associate Professor Josh Roose from Deakin University argued that online radicalism is becoming an increasingly significant factor in violent attacks and that police services must take these threats more seriously.

The coronial inquest's findings have left the families of the victims reeling, with McCrow's mother Judy delivering a statement saying that while they are disappointed with some of the recommendations, they need time to process the findings and respond.
 
So there was this crazy family who thought police were demons 🤣, and they ended up taking down like 6 people including themselves, all because of their delusional paranoia 😂. And now the coroner's saying it wasn't a terrorist attack, but more like an "act of self-defense"... yeah right, sounds like they just wanted to defend their meat suit-wearing demons from the cops 🤪! I mean, what's next? Are we gonna start labeling everyone who disagrees with us as "morally insane" 😂. But seriously, this is a super serious issue, and online radicalization is definitely something we gotta take more seriously 💔. Maybe they should just play some Minecraft or Fortnite to calm down before making any life-or-death decisions 🎮
 
This case is just so mind-blowing 🤯! I mean, two police officers died in an ambush by three people who thought they were being attacked by demons 😱. It's crazy to think that these guys believed police officers wore "meat suits" 👕 and were actually evil 👿. And the fact that it was just a case of paranoid delusions rather than terrorism is just wild 🌪️.

I do think it's great that the coroner made some recommendations for improving police procedures, though 💡. It's not like they can catch all these online radicalized individuals who are planning to attack people 😔. I mean, we've seen so many cases of people getting radicalized online and then going on to commit violent attacks 🚨.

But at the same time, it's also got me thinking about how we should be addressing this issue 🤔. Shouldn't law enforcement agencies be taking these threats more seriously? I think they should, but it's not like they can just magic away all the problems 💫.

Anyway, I'm still trying to process everything that happened in this case 😕. It's just so shocking and sad at the same time 😔.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this entire thing 🤯. Like, I get it, mental illness is a real issue and we should be doing more to help people who are struggling, but come on... an ambush? It's just not rational. The idea that the Train family was driven by paranoid delusions because of "folie à trois" is crazy 😬. And what's even crazier is that they actually believed police officers were demons in "meat suits"... I mean, who does that?! 🤪

It's also got me thinking about how online radicalization is becoming a bigger and bigger problem. Like, we can't just ignore it anymore ⚠️. We need to find ways to address it and prevent more incidents like this from happening in the future.

But at the end of the day, I think what's really concerning is that police officers were actually shot by people who were so clearly delusional. It raises questions about how we can trust our law enforcement agencies to handle situations like this... 🤔.
 
OMG u guyz, this is like soooo crazy!!! 🤯 I cant even right now, ther was these ppl, The Train fam, who beleived they wer being attacked by demons or sumthin... 🙅‍♂️ They were all delusional and had a shared psychotic disorder which is like, super scary. And then they ambushed 6 cops & killed them... its just wow.

I think the coroner's findings are rite though, ther wasn't any terrorism involved, just some ppl losin it mentally. But u know how hard it is to deal with online radicalism & all that. I mean we need 2 b careful but also not jump 2 conclusions, u feel? 🤔

I'm still tryna process everything, its like, soooo sad for the victims & their fams. Let's hope ther r more ways 2 prevent this kinda stuff from happenin again 💖
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one 🤯... I mean, who prepares for an ambush against cops? Like, what's next, expecting a zombie apocalypse or something? 😂 But seriously, it's messed up that these guys were driven by paranoia and delusions. It's like they were living in their own little bubble of crazytown 🌪️.

And can we talk about how messed up the Train family's ideology was? Believing cops wore "meat suits" and were demons? That's just...wow. It's not even a good conspiracy theory, it's just delusional 😂. And for them to think they were defending God's will? Give me a break 🙄.

I'm all for improving police procedures and mental health assessments, but can we also talk about how we can help people like the Trains get some actual help instead of just labeling them as "mentally ill"? It's not that simple 🤔. And what about online radicalization? That's a whole other can of worms 🐛.

I don't know, maybe I'm just old and naive 😅, but it seems like we're always looking for easy answers instead of tackling the root causes of these problems 💡. Anyway, my two cents...not worth much, probably 😜.
 
it's wild how quickly things can go from "police were attacked" to "police officers were paranoid delusional", and now we're having conversations about how online radicalization might be a thing 🤯. I mean, it's not like they didn't know who the Train family was, or what they were capable of - but I guess that's just how it goes sometimes, right? 😔

anyway, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole "folie à trois" thing... like, is this a thing where you can catch mental illness from someone else? 🤷‍♂️ it's all pretty mind-blowing, if you ask me.

i do think it's interesting that the coroner's findings are trying to separate fact from fiction here - and I appreciate that they're acknowledging that there were some serious mental health issues at play. but at the same time, i'm like... how did this even happen? 😳
 
idk what's wrong w/ ppl these days... 😒 think 2 many ppl r jumping 2 conclusions & accusing others of being terrorists without even having all facts 🤔. it's like, yeah ok we got a weird situation here but let's not be so quick 2 label ppl as evil or crazy 🙅‍♂️. I mean, mental health is a real thing & it can affect anyone 🤕. the fact that these ppl were driven by paranoid delusions doesn't excuse their actions, but maybe we should be more understanding & try 2 help them instead of locking 'em up 👊. and what's w/ the "act of self-defense" label? didn't they know that police officers r there 2 protect people not harm 'em 🚔? anywayz, glad the coroner made those recommendations 4 bettering police procedures 🙏
 
omg i cant even rn 😭🤯 the train family was literally driven by paranoia and delusions 🤪 how could they think the cops were demons in meat suits lol 🐺😂 anyway i feel bad for their fam but also like wut were they thinking? 🤷‍♀️ idk about the online radicalization tho 🌐 is this gonna lead to more ppl getting hurt because of stupid beliefs online 😕 anywayz the police service needs 2 step up their game 💪🏽 and make sure these kinds of situations dont happen again 🙏
 
omg i cant even right now 😩😭 this is soooo sad the train fam was literally crazy but like who can blame them lol their paranoid delusions were SO REAL 🤯 i mean imagine being in a situation where you really do think ppl are out to get u and u gotta defend urself?

anywayz the coroner's findings make total sense now that we know it wasn't actually a terror attack 😂 and btw dr aboud's "morally insane" ideology comment is EVERYTHING 💀 but seriously though this whole thing is super heartbreaking and i can only imagine how hard it must be for the families of the victims 🤕

can we pls just talk about the train fam tho? 🤣 i mean stacey, gareth, nathaniel... they were literally so extra 😂 in a good way? their folie à trois thing is SO INTERESTING 📚 and i wish we could learn more about it but like, mental health stuff is super complicated 💊

anywayz lets just take a moment to remember the victims and their families 🙏💕 and then let's get back to discussing this whole thing because tbh i'm literally dying to know more 🤔
 
🤯 I'm still trying to wrap my head around this stuff... like what even is folie à trois? 🤔 A shared psychotic disorder where three people become convinced they're under attack by demons? It's just wild. And I'm not buying the "meat suits" thing either... that's just plain crazy talk 😂. But at the same time, I can see how paranoia and delusions can get really out of hand, especially when you've got a bunch of guns and a perceived threat to your way of life. It's like, what's the difference between self-defense and full-on insanity? 🤷‍♂️
 
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