US farmers will get more money from Trump. They still have more problems

US farmers will receive a boost of $12 billion in federal aid under the latest administration initiative from President Trump, but many are still grappling with the economic impacts of the trade war.

Gene Stehly, a Minnesota farmer who exports corn and soybeans to China, expressed concerns that the latest payment would not be enough to cover his losses. "Maybe this will all come out to be better at the end, but I can tell you right now, it certainly isn’t the case at the moment," he said.

The aid package represents a significant increase from previous government support measures during Trump's first term, which provided $22 billion in 2019 and $46 billion in 2020. However, farmers say that this new payment will only provide temporary relief rather than addressing their long-term concerns about lower commodity prices, rising costs, and declining sales.

Charlie Radman, a fourth-generation farmer from Minnesota, said the aid package was "a bridge" but not a solution to the industry's problems. "What we really want to have is a little more certainty and not have to rely on these ad hoc payments," he added.

The trade war with China has had a devastating impact on American soybean and sorghum farmers, who typically export at least half of their crops. Trump's deal with Chinese President Xi Jinping in October was touted as a success by the administration, but Chinese officials have been tight-lipped about the details of the agreement.

China has so far purchased only one-quarter of the 12 million metric tons of soybeans that US officials said would be purchased before the end of February. Even if China does follow through on its commitment to buy 25 million metric tons annually in the next three years, it will only bring American farmers near to their pre-Trump levels.

Farmers say they need more demand for their products and are pushing for the administration to focus on opening up new markets outside of China. Dan Keitzer, a soybean and corn farmer from Iowa, said that the industry needs "more customers" to justify its investments in technology and bigger harvests.

The $12 billion aid package will be capped at $155,000 per farmer or entity, and only farms making less than $900,000 in adjusted gross income will be eligible. Large farms have found ways around these limits in previous government support measures.

Trump has signed an executive order to investigate anti-competitive practices in the food supply chain, which could benefit farmers by reducing costs. However, many farmers are skeptical about the impact of this initiative and remain concerned about the long-term effects of the trade war on their industry.
 
πŸ€” i mean can u believe $12 billion is not even enough for them? i get it the trade war has been brutal but $12 billion is just a drop in the bucket πŸ“Š considering how much those farmers have lost already. and what's with the eligibility limits tho? $155,000 per farmer or entity? doesn't that sound like a pretty low bar to me? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ i also wonder when are they gonna get more than just 1 quarter of their soybeans sold to china πŸš€ they need real demand for their products not just some token purchase deals. and those tech investments are already taking a toll on the environment 🌎 so do we really want farmers spending even more on fancy equipment?
 
oh man, i feel so bad for these farmers πŸ€• they're literally working hard to produce food for our country but it seems like no matter what, they can't catch a break πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ $12 billion is a lot of money, but it's not enough to cover all the losses they've been taking due to the trade war. and let's be real, even if china does start buying more soybeans, it's not like it's going to make a huge difference in the long run πŸ€” farmers need more than just financial help, they need support for new markets and technologies that can increase their production and sales πŸ’‘
 
I feel for those farmers, it's crazy to think they're still struggling after all these years πŸ˜”. 12 billion is a big chunk of change, but I'm not sure if it's going to make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things πŸ€”. I mean, $155k per farm might seem like a lot, but for those making more than that, it's basically just chump change πŸ’Έ.

I also think they're right that this is temporary relief at best πŸ•°οΈ. We need to see some real commitment from the admin to address these long-term issues πŸ“ˆ. More demand for their products and opening up new markets outside of China would be a huge help 🌎. And let's not forget, those big farms have been finding ways to work around the limits in previous support measures so I'm skeptical about this new cap being effective πŸ˜’.

It's just frustrating that farmers are still feeling the pinch all these years later πŸ’”. We need to do better by them than just throwing a bone their way πŸ₯Š.
 
im not sure if $12 billion is enuf 2 cover all the loses these americn farmers r goin thru πŸ˜” they need more demand 4 their products n a stable price 2 plan ahead, but china still havnt delivered on its commitment πŸ€” and thats whr the real issue lies πŸ“‰
 
man, its like 12 billion bucks just isn't cuttin it for these farmers πŸ€‘ they're still stuck in debt from the trade war and now they gotta scramble to make ends meet 🀯 trump's deal with china was touted as a win but cina's been playin' it cool and that's leavin farmers high & dry πŸ’Έ what farmers really need is some certainty not just another handout πŸ™„ and btw 155k per farm? thats like pennies on the dollar for these big farms lol
 
I'm really worried about these farmers, they're already struggling so much πŸ€•. $12 billion is a nice gesture, but like Gene said, it's not gonna make up for all the losses they've taken during this trade war. I mean, think about it - 25 million metric tons of soybeans that China has to buy over three years? It sounds like a lot, but when you consider the scale of what these farmers produce (we're talking millions and millions of tons), it's just not enough.

And the thing is, this isn't just about the money - it's about certainty. Farmers need to know that they can count on a steady demand for their products, not just some temporary handout from the government. It's like Charlie said, "a bridge" but not a solution. We need these farmers to be able to invest in their businesses and innovate, not just rely on emergency aid.

And let's not forget about the long-term implications of this trade war. Dan Keitzer is right that we need more demand for these products - but how are we gonna get there? By relying on some ad hoc deal with China, or by actually doing something to create new markets and opportunities outside of Asia? We need a plan here! πŸ€”
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how the US government can keep throwing money at these farmers without addressing the root issues πŸ€”. It's like they're treating symptoms rather than causing some real change πŸ’Έ. I mean, $12 billion is a lot of cash, but it's not exactly going to put food on their tables or pay off their mortgages 🏠.

And can we talk about how this aid package doesn't even account for the fact that these farmers are still selling way below pre-Trump prices? It's like they're expecting everyone just to magically adjust to new market conditions without any help πŸ’Έ. I get it, trade wars are tricky to navigate, but come on, folks! Can we at least try to make things a little more equitable for the people who are actually making this stuff happen?

It's all about creating short-term fixes rather than long-term solutions πŸ”. These farmers need more than just a handout; they need access to new markets and a guaranteed price for their products 🌎. The government needs to step up its game and support these guys in a meaningful way πŸ’ͺ. Otherwise, we're just going to keep seeing the same old struggles from American farmers πŸ€•.
 
the numbers don't add up for me, you know? $12 billion sounds like a huge helping hand, but is it just a Band-Aid on a bullet wound? what's the real cost of this trade war, really? we're talking about people's livelihoods here, not just their bank accounts. and what's with all these strings attached - only farms making less than $900k are eligible? that's like leaving a kid on the side of the road while everyone else gets to drive off into the sunset. it just feels so... temporary
 
I feel bad for these American farmers, man... they're already struggling and now they get a chunk of cash from the government to help 'em out? It's like patching a hole in a sinking ship 🌊. They need more than just a bailout, they need some real solutions to these issues. This trade war with China is having a major impact on their livelihoods, and it's not just about the money. They're worried about the future of their farms and their families' well-being. The government needs to get creative and focus on opening up new markets for them, maybe even exploring alternative export partners 🌍. I'm not sure if this $12 billion is gonna make a huge difference in the long run...
 
I dont think its fair that only farms making less than 900k get aid lol πŸ€‘ its like they want to help the small guys but forget the big players can always find ways around it πŸ€” farmers need more than just a bridge payment, they need some real solutions for their long-term problems. And china still havent even bought all the soybeans they promised πŸ™„ 25 million metric tons is a drop in the bucket compared to whats been lost due to trade war.
 
idk what's going on with these farm subsidies πŸ€”... like, $12 billion sounds nice but it's still not enough to cover all the losses from the trade war. Gene Stehly is right, this aid package feels like temporary relief at best. I mean, 25 million metric tons of soybeans a year isn't gonna make up for what these farmers are losing out on. And don't even get me started on the eligibility limit πŸ€‘... $155,000? That's just a drop in the bucket for some of these big farms. They'll find ways to work around it anyway. It's all about creating more demand and opening up new markets, but I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon 😐. This trade war is having a real impact on farmers, and we need to see some real solutions rather than just throwing money at the problem πŸ’Έ
 
I feel bad for these farmers πŸ€• they're struggling so much and it's not just about the $12 billion aid package, it's about the long term issues too πŸ€‘. I mean, can't we find a way to open up new markets and give them more demand for their products? 🌎 They need more than just temporary relief from the government πŸ’Έ. It's like they're stuck in limbo, waiting for something that might not even happen πŸ•°οΈ. The trade war is a big deal and it affects so many people πŸ‘₯. We should be supporting them more, you know? 🀝
 
I feel bad for these farmers πŸ€• they're already dealing with so much uncertainty. I think it's a good start that Trump is trying to help them out, but we need more than just temporary aid πŸ€‘. We need some real solutions to this problem. I mean, who wants to be dependent on one market only? 🌍 China might have signed an agreement, but what about other countries? We should be diversifying our markets and not relying so much on just one buyer.

I also think it's weird that big farms are finding ways to get around the limits of the aid package. Isn't that kinda unfair? βš–οΈ Shouldn't everyone get a fair shot at getting some help? πŸ€” I'm all for helping out our farmers, but we need to make sure everyone is on an equal playing field.

And what's up with this executive order about investigating anti-competitive practices in the food supply chain? 🀝 Is that really gonna help them or just more bureaucracy?
 
πŸ€” This $12 billion aid package is like throwing some cash at a fire to see if it puts out the flames. I mean, we all know China's gonna play chicken with us until they're good and ready πŸ“. The thing is, farmers aren't just gonna be like "oh cool, more money" and suddenly forget about their losses. It takes time and effort to rebuild trust in the market.

I feel for these farmers, man. They're already dealing with lower commodity prices and rising costs. And now they gotta navigate all this trade war drama? It's not easy being a farmer. They need certainty, not just a quick fix. We should be pushing for more new markets, you know? Get some demand up in here and stop relying on one giant customer πŸš€.

And what's with the $155,000 cap? That's like saying "good luck, mate" to these farmers trying to make ends meet. Large farms can figure ways around this, but small ones are gonna get left behind πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. Something's gotta give here. We need some real solutions, not just Band-Aids.
 
πŸ€” This $12 billion aid package might be a step in the right direction but it's not enough to cover losses from the trade war πŸŒͺ️. Farmers need more than just temporary relief, they want certainty and demand for their products πŸ’Έ. China's commitment to buy 25 million metric tons of soybeans annually is a drop in the ocean compared to what they used to import before the trade war πŸ’§. The industry needs new markets outside of China 🌍, not just a handout from the government 🀝.
 
Umm... I think this $12 billion aid package is a good start πŸ€”. I mean, it's not like they're gonna pay all our problems away or anything πŸ’Έ. It's more like a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. We need some real solutions here, you know? Like, we need to figure out how to make these big corporations stop price-fixing and stuff πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ.

But... at the same time... I'm not sure if this aid is even enough πŸ€‘. I mean, it's $12 billion, but we're talking about an industry that's been hit pretty hard by this trade war πŸ’”. We need more than just a pat on the back and some cash to cover our losses πŸ‘‹.

Wait, what? Am I being too harsh or what? 😐 Maybe this aid package is exactly what we need... no, scratch that, maybe it's not πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. Ugh, my mind is all over the place today πŸ˜‚.
 
πŸ€” A diagram showing US farm income from 2018 to 2025 would give a clear picture of how $12 billion will be received by the farms πŸ“ˆ

I'm kinda worried that $12 billion is gonna be too little for farmers like Gene, Charlie, and Dan... especially if their income isn't above $900k. It's like, imagine you have to borrow money just to survive, but the interest rate is super high 😬

Also, I'm thinking about how China has only bought 1/4 of the soybeans they said they would buy before Feb 🌾... that's not much help for farmers who rely on exports. Maybe we need to explore other markets? Like, have you ever thought about the US being a major player in global food tech? πŸ€–

I'm all for opening up new markets and reducing costs for farmers through that executive order! πŸ’ͺ But it's hard to see how this will make up for the losses they've already faced during the trade war...
 
The $12 billion aid package might seem like a big help, but honestly, it's still not enough for most farmers πŸ€”. The numbers don't add up when you look at the bigger picture. I mean, think about it - they're only eligible if they make less than $900k in adjusted gross income, which is like saying "hey, we'll help you out... as long as you're not too successful" πŸ˜’. And let's be real, big farms have found ways to game the system before, so what makes this time any different? It's all about temporary fixes rather than addressing the underlying issues 🚫. The trade war is still going on and farmers are still losing money left and right πŸ’Έ. We need to see more commitment from the administration to open up new markets and increase demand for American soybeans and sorghum, not just throw a few billion dollars at the problem πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ.
 
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