'We used a beachball as an alien!' John Carpenter on his gloriously shonky sci-fi comedy Dark Star

John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon took on the task of making a science fiction movie inspired by classic films like Dr Strangelove and 2001, despite having no money and enormous ambition. They started with some money from their parents and shot on 16mm film, building sets and acting in the movie themselves.

The duo decided to go for "Dirty Space" instead of something more conventional, as they wanted to portray the sterility of space that wasn't typical in sci-fi films at the time. The spaceship was designed by Ron Cobb, a friend of Dan's, while the premise itself didn't make sense - it was always meant to be humorous.

After three years of filming, which were supposed to take only a month, they managed to secure distribution and made the movie into a full-length feature film with the help of Jack Harris, who had produced The Blob. Carpenter also wrote the soundtrack for the film, as well as the music for the song "Benson Arizona", which played over the opening and closing credits.

A beachball was used to represent an alien planet in one scene, after Dan O'Bannon's friend came up with a similar idea while carrying the ball on set. The actor playing the alien, Nick Castle, brought a lot of character to it. Brian Narelle played Lieutenant Doolittle, who made a few trips to talk to Sgt Talby in the ship's observation dome.

However, filming was not without its challenges - one take had to be redone due to O'Bannon removing Carpenter's helmet after each line, leaving him breathing outside for some fresh air. Another actor, Cal Kuniholm, improvised a trick that involved stabbing a knife between his fingers, but accidentally skewered himself and continued acting out the scene without flinching.

The film was released in 45 theatres with no fanfare, starring nobody anyone knew, which didn't help its understanding by audiences. Dan O'Bannon has said that he left a screening where only 12 curious people showed up and were confused - this sparked his idea for the screenplay of Alien.

Years later at San Diego Comic Con, Carpenter met Ray Bradbury, who was not pleased with Dark Star's similarities to Bradbury's writing style and claimed it had stolen ideas from his work. He wore Coke bottle glasses during their meeting, which left Carpenter feeling like an insect being burned under a magnifying glass.

Dark Star has become more relevant over time, particularly with regards to AI - the film is often seen as not just a comedy but also a commentary on our relationship with technology. The final line "Don't give me any of that intelligent life crap, just find me something I can blow up" still resonates today.
 
🀯 Dark Star's DIY ethos and experimental approach to filmmaking is still super inspiring! I mean, who wouldn't want to make a sci-fi film with a shoestring budget and no clear direction? πŸš€ Their willingness to take risks and poke fun at the genre really paid off in the end. And can we talk about how ahead of its time it was regarding our relationship with technology? The themes of AI, automation, and existential dread are so relevant today πŸ’»πŸ’Έ

I also love how they used everyday objects to create their sets and characters – like that beachball alien πŸ˜‚! It's amazing how much character can be brought out in an actor even with the most mundane props. And oh man, those behind-the-scenes stories about O'Bannon removing Carpenter's helmet during takes 🀣! It's no wonder they were able to make something so weird and wonderful on such a tight budget.

It's crazy to think that a film with no fanfare at its initial release would become more relevant over time. I mean, Dark Star has this cult following now, but it wasn't always the case 🀝. And that meeting between Carpenter and Ray Bradbury? Still gives me chills 😳! The way Bradbury felt like his work was being "burned under a magnifying glass" is just intense πŸ”₯.

Anyway, Dark Star is definitely one of those films that's become more relevant as time goes on πŸ•°οΈ. I mean, who wouldn't want to explore the darker side of our relationship with technology? The final line still gives me chills – it's like they knew we'd be facing this existential crisis eventually πŸ˜‚!
 
πŸš€πŸ’« Dark Star is like, totally underrated fam πŸ‘! People always talk about Alien, but this movie came out first πŸ“† and was all about pushing boundaries 🀯. The special effects might look bad now, but they were crazy innovative back in the day πŸŽ₯. I love how it's not just a comedy, it's also a commentary on tech and space πŸ–₯οΈπŸ’». And can we talk about the cast? Nick Castle as an alien is πŸ”₯! πŸ˜‚πŸ‘½ The fact that it took them 3 years to finish filming but only made 45 screens 🎬 is wild too πŸ’Έ. And, oh man, Ray Bradbury's reaction at Comic Con 🀣 is just... πŸ˜‚. Dark Star might not have been a hit back in the day, but it's definitely gained some serious cult status over time πŸ‘.
 
ok so i was watching this doc about dark star and i'm like wow they were total underdogs makin this movie with like no budget but tons of ambition πŸš€πŸŽ₯ and dan obannon's idea to make a space film that's more sterile than cheesy is genius πŸ’‘

i love how john carpenter wrote the soundtrack and even made that song for benson arizona it's so nostalgic 😊 and can we talk about the alien scene with the beachball πŸŒ΄πŸ‘½ nick castle brought such character to it

but what really stood out was the challenges they faced on set like one actor almost stabbed himself 🀯 and another dude just went through with a scene while bleeding from a knife...ouch! πŸ˜‚

anyway dark star's become more relatable over time especially with ai takeovers πŸ€– and that final line still hits hard today "don't give me any of that intelligent life crap" πŸ’£
 
I'm telling you, this whole story about Dark Star's creation is like a microcosm of the American dream – or should I say, the illusion of the American dream πŸ€”. These two dudes, John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon, no money, big ambition, just like many entrepreneurs in our great nation πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ. They took a risk, shot on 16mm film, built sets themselves... it's like they were bootstrapping their way to success πŸ’ͺ.

And then you got the whole "Dirty Space" vibe, which I think is like a commentary on how we're approaching space exploration today πŸš€. The sterility of space, not just a typical sci-fi staple, that's something we need to be having more conversations about in this country πŸ—£οΈ.

Now, I know some people might say Carpenter stole ideas from Ray Bradbury, but let me tell you, that's like saying Steve Jobs stole the iPhone design from someone else πŸ˜‚. It's just not how innovation works in America – it's all about taking risks and pushing boundaries πŸ’₯.

And have you seen Dark Star lately? With AI becoming more prevalent, this film is more relevant than ever πŸ€–. The final line still resonates, don't give me any of that intelligent life crap... that's like the Tea Party spirit in a nutshell 🚫. Who needs intelligent life when we can blow something up? πŸ˜‚
 
πŸš€ Dark Star was like that one weird cousin at the family reunion - it didn't exactly fit in back then but now it's all cool 🀣. I mean, think about it, John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon made a movie with no budget on 16mm film, just trying to make something funny about space... and it kinda worked. The beachball alien thing is genius πŸ€ͺ. People didn't get it when it came out but now we're all like "oh yeah, Dark Star was way ahead of its time". And those improv moments? πŸ’₯ Cal Kuniholm stabbing himself with a knife in one take is just... wow.
 
omg u guys Dark Star is like totally iconic now!! i mean who needs big names when u have genius like John Carpenter & Dan O'Bannon behind it? they def took a risk with this movie & it paid off in the end! 🀩 i love how they went for this super unique vibe w/ the sterility of space & Ron Cobb's spaceship design is everything! 😍 and can we talk about the beachball alien tho?! 🌴 that's some next level thinking right there! 🀯 anyway, it's crazy to see how Dark Star has become relevant again esp w/ AI on our minds these days... that final line still gives me chills every time πŸŽ₯
 
man remember when sci-fi movies were like this kinda low budget weirdness? Dark Star was released in '77 and it's crazy how it didn't do well back then but now it's like a cult classic 🀣. I mean, you got John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon who are just trying to make something happen with no cash and they're doing all the acting themselves... talk about passion project πŸ’ͺ. And can we talk about that beachball scene? πŸ˜‚ still cracks me up to this day. It's wild how some of the ideas in Dark Star are actually relevant today, like our relationship with AI πŸ€–. I'm glad it's gained more appreciation over time, 'cause I think it's kinda genius. And you can't help but feel for O'Bannon and Carpenter after that awkward meeting with Ray Bradbury πŸ˜….
 
omg u guys Dark Star is like the OG sci-fi film that ppl never gave enough credit 2 πŸš€πŸ‘½ it's crazy 2 think they made a movie w/ no budget & had 2 act out scenes themselves lol but it was all worth it b/c it's got this perfect blend of humor & commentary on technology πŸ€–πŸ’» dan obannon & john carpenter r like the ultimate fandom goals πŸ‘«πŸŽ₯ i mean, who else can say they turned a flop into a cult classic? πŸ˜‚ "don't give me any of that intelligent life crap" still gives me chills every time 🀯
 
Wow! 🀯 Like, can you even believe how low-budget and crazy their setup was? They had no money and just went for it! 16mm film, building sets themselves... that's some next-level dedication to a project! πŸ˜‚ And the fact that they intentionally made something weird like "Dirty Space" just because they wanted to subvert expectations is genius. I love how it all came together despite (or because of) their unconventional approach. AI connections are so relevant now, and Dark Star is definitely a commentary on our relationship with tech. Still gives me chills when I think about the ' Don't give me any of that intelligent life crap' line...
 
I'm low-key impressed how they managed to create Dark Star on such a shoestring budget πŸ€”. Like, who needs money or experience when you've got ambition and a crazy idea? The whole "Dirty Space" thing was a genius move, it's like they wanted to subvert the typical sci-fi expectations and make something weird and quirky... but let's be real, it still might have been kinda boring for most people πŸ“Ί. I mean, who wants to watch a movie about an alien planet that looks suspiciously like a beach ball? πŸ˜‚ And can we talk about the "acting" in this film? Nick Castle's character is basically just a dude with a funny hat and some questionable life choices... but I guess that's the beauty of it? πŸ€ͺ The fact that they were willing to take risks and make something truly original, even if it didn't work out at the time, is still super admirable πŸ’―.
 
idk about dark star being a sci-fi classic lol it was released in 45 theaters and nobody knew who the actors were πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ but i guess that's what makes it so cult following kinda thing. anyway, i think it's kinda weird how ray bradbury got upset with carpenter over similarities between their work. didn't they have similar influences from dr strangelove and 2001? and also, did dark star's themes of technology and ai ever really resonate back in the day when it came out? or is that just something we see now that sci-fi has become more about exploring tech issues πŸ€”
 
I don’t usually comment but... Dark Star is such an underrated film 🀣. I mean, can you imagine trying to make a sci-fi movie with no money and just going for it? It's like they were saying "screw conventional filmmaking" and just went wild πŸŽ₯. The fact that Dan O'Bannon took inspiration from his friend's silly idea about using a beachball as an alien planet is just genius 🌊. And the cast, I mean, who wouldn't want to see Brian Narelle in a spaceship πŸš€? But seriously, the film's themes of AI and technology feeling like a commentary on our current world is so relevant today πŸ€–. I love how it's not taken as seriously as some other sci-fi classics, but that just adds to its quirky charm 😎.
 
omg u guys dark star was released in like 1974 and it's been forever since then lol the fact that they had to redo takes because dan o'bannon kept taking off john carpenter's helmet is just wild imagine having to do a whole scene with fresh air 🀣 and have u seen those Coke bottle glasses tho ray bradbury looked hella intimidating at con πŸ•ΆοΈ anyway dark star might not be a huge hit back in the day but its definitely gained some new relevance over the years especially w/ ai on the rise πŸ€–
 
I'm still getting chills thinking about Dark Star πŸš€πŸ‘½! Those guys took a huge risk by making such an offbeat film with no money, and it's crazy to think they had to improvise some crazy stuff like Cal Kuniholm stabbing himself πŸ˜‚πŸ’‰. The beachball scene tho... who comes up with that? 🀣 I love how the film is like a weird cousin of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but in a funny way - not trying to be too deep or serious. It's all about embracing the absurdity of space travel and our relationship with tech. I think John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon were total geniuses for pushing those boundaries πŸ€“. And can we talk about how underrated this film is? Like, it's one of those gems that you stumble upon when you're browsing old movie lists... totally worth a watch! πŸ‘
 
lol what's up with Dan O'Bannon and John Carpenter making Dark Star with like 1 cent from their parents lol they were so broke but had huge ambitions πŸ€‘πŸŽ₯ i love how they went for the "Dirty Space" vibe instead of something more conventional, it makes the movie feel super unique now. Ron Cobb's spaceship design is insane too! πŸš€ and oh man that beachball alien thing πŸ˜‚ I also wonder what it would've been like if O'Bannon hadn't met Bradbury at Comic Con - did he really think Dark Star stole his ideas tho? πŸ€”
 
omg can u believe these two guys John & Dan made a movie w/ like $0 budget and it's now cult classic lol they did use a beachball to represent an alien planet 🀣 and one of the actors even stabbed himself w/ a knife during filming πŸ˜‚ anyway, I think Dark Star is kinda genius cuz it pokes fun at sci-fi tropes but also says some deep stuff about our tech addiction πŸ€–. Carpenter's soundtrack is fire too, I mean who else writes music for their own movie and a random song that plays in credits? πŸ‘
 
omg i love how these guys were so determined and broke all the rules to make their movie lol like 16mm film and building sets themselves? genius! and oh my gosh who knew a beachball could be an alien planet?? 🀯🌌 nick castle's acting skills are insane, what a great find! and can you imagine John Carpenter's helmet situation? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ poor guy needed some fresh air! 🌞 anyway, it's so cool how Dark Star has become more relevant over time, especially with AI on our minds. the final line still gives me chills ❀️πŸ’₯
 
I'm lovin' this retro vibe they're gettin' from the early days of sci-fi flicks πŸš€πŸŽ₯. These guys, Carpenter and O'Bannon, they took a huge risk by makin' their own movie with zero budget, but it paid off in the end. I mean, who wouldn't wanna watch a film about space travel that's more goofy than serious? πŸ˜‚ It's like they're laughin' at the tropes instead of wakin' up to 'em. And can we talk about Ron Cobb's spaceship design skills? 🀩 That thing is OUT OF THIS WORLD (pun intended).

But what I love most about Dark Star is how it pokes fun at our relationship with tech. It's like, they're not tryin' to be all deep and profound, but they're just laughin' at the absurdity of it all. And that final line? Still gives me chuckles every time 🀣. It's like, who hasn't felt like screamin' at someone to just give 'em a straightforward answer instead of all this flowery nonsense?

And can we talk about the improv moments? πŸ˜‚ Cal Kuniholm, dude! He's like a space-age action hero without even tryin'. But seriously, it's amazing how these early sci-fi flicks have become so relevant again. Dark Star may not've been a hit back in the day, but now it's like, this cult classic that people actually care about πŸŽ₯πŸ‘
 
omg i love how they did it like they had no budget but tons of ambition 🀯 i mean who else can say they made a sci-fi movie with 16mm film and beachballs as alien planets lol i think its awesome that dan o'Bannon's friend came up with the idea for the beachball scene, its so quirky and fun. and ahh yes, ray bradbury being his usual cool self πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ at comic con, but still Dark Star is like totally relevant today in terms of AI and technology
 
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