Electroconvulsive therapy may have more adverse effects than thought

UK's ECT Treatment Raises Concerns Over New Adverse Effects Found

A recent study published in the International Journal of Mental Health has sparked controversy over the use of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), a treatment for depression that involves passing electricity through the brain to induce seizures. The research, which surveyed 747 ECT patients and 201 relatives and friends, has found that nearly two-thirds of participants experienced emotional blunting, while nearly a quarter reported heart problems such as arrhythmia.

The study's author, Professor John Read, is calling for ECT to be suspended pending further research into its safety and efficacy. He states that the existing evidence is "so flawed and inconclusive" that it would have no chance of gaining approval from regulatory bodies in the UK or US if introduced today.

ECT has been a topic of debate among mental health professionals, with some reporting improvements in symptoms but others citing long-term cognitive damage. Bipolar UK's director of research, Professor Tania Gergel, counters that there is "no evidence to substantiate claims" of major physical risks or permanent brain damage associated with modern ECT.

Despite the controversy, many experts acknowledge ECT's effectiveness in reducing severe depression symptoms and improving quality of life for patients. Clinical psychologist Lucy Johnstone highlights its importance as a treatment option, particularly for those who have tried other therapies without success. "Pills won't help," she notes, "so it quickly gets to the point where what do we try next? That's when ECT gets raised."

However, concerns remain about the lack of awareness surrounding ECT among patients and mental health professionals. A National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) spokesperson has emphasized the importance of informed consent and proper training for clinicians administering the treatment.

As the debate continues, one thing is clear: ECT remains a complex and multifaceted treatment that warrants further investigation into its benefits and risks.
 
πŸ€” I'm so glad they're looking deeper into this. I've known people who've had ECT, and it's always been super secretive around here. Like, what even is the point of informed consent if you don't get all the facts? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ Those heart problems are crazy – arrhythmia, my cousin's aunt had that from a routine surgery... I mean, I'm not saying ECT causes it, but come on! The lack of awareness among mental health pros is staggering. They need to be like, "Hey, this treatment exists!" And honestly, pills aren't always the answer – I've seen patients who can't even swallow them because they're too anxious... But at the same time, we need more research to figure out what's safe and not. It's a total grey area. πŸ’Š
 
πŸ€” I'm telling ya, there's something fishy about this whole ECT situation 🐟. First, they're finding all these new adverse effects, but how come nobody noticed 'em before? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ It's like they're trying to get rid of ECT, period. And now, Professor Read wants to suspend it pending more research? What's the real motive here? πŸ’Έ Is there some big pharmaceutical company trying to push their meds instead? πŸ“ˆ I'm not saying that's what's happening, but you never know, right? 😏
 
ECT is like a double-edged sword πŸ’‘... it can really help people get rid of severe depression, but now we're finding out some not-so-great side effects πŸ€•... I think the study's author has a point, we need more research before we can say for sure if ECT is safe and effective. 747 patients might seem like a lot, but if nearly two-thirds are experiencing emotional blunting, that's still a pretty big deal 🀯... and arrhythmia heart problems? That's no joke πŸ’”... at the same time, I get why some people are saying ECT has its benefits and can be a lifesaver for those who've tried other treatments without success πŸ™... but what about proper training and informed consent? We need to make sure patients and clinicians know what they're getting into 🀝... more research is definitely needed, but we gotta approach this with caution too πŸš¨πŸ’‘
 
😬 I don't know how much more evidence we need before suspending this treatment? 😩 Two-thirds of patients experienced emotional numbing? That's crazy! 🀯 And nearly a quarter had heart problems? πŸ’” What is going on with our brains?! 😷 I feel like ECT should be approached with even more caution and research. πŸ’‘ We can't just dismiss the concerns of experts like Professor John Read and Lucy Johnstone without looking deeper into the issue. πŸ€” I'm all for finding effective treatments, but we gotta get it right! πŸ’―
 
OMG, have you guys seen this? They're saying nearly 2/3 of people who got ECT had emotional blunting? That's like, super scary! πŸ’€ And arrhythmia is no joke either... I mean, I get that it might be effective for some people, but what about the risks? πŸ€”

I'm with Professor Read on this one, IMHO. We need to know more about what we're giving these patients before we keep pushing forward. πŸ’‘ It's not just about ECT being effective, it's about making sure they're safe too.

And can we talk about how some people are downplaying the risks? Like, no evidence to substantiate claims of major physical risks? πŸ™„ That doesn't mean it's not a risk at all! We need more transparency and awareness around this stuff.

I'm all for trying new treatments when other options aren't working, but let's not rush into things without knowing what we're doing. πŸ’―
 
I'm worried about the new findings on ECT πŸ€”. I mean, two-thirds of patients experiencing emotional blunting is a lot to brush off as minor side effects πŸ’Š. And what's with all these heart problems? It's gotta be worth re-examining the safety and efficacy of this treatment. I've heard it can be a game-changer for people who haven't responded to other therapies, but we need more concrete answers before we can fully endorse it 🀝. The lack of awareness among patients and professionals is also super concerning – informed consent is key, right? πŸ’‘
 
πŸ˜’ ugh, this study just highlights how outdated our online forums are πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ I mean, can't we get more in-depth discussions going on here? 747 patients and 201 relatives is a lot to survey, but it's still not like we can have real-time conversations or share personal anecdotes πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ It feels like we're just regurgitating the same old information from studies without really digging deeper πŸ’‘

And what's up with all these experts weighing in on our forum? Can't they just talk to each other IRL? πŸ‘€ It's always "Professor this" and "expert that"... can't we just have a more casual conversation about ECT? πŸ€” I mean, I get it, some people need the treatment and it works for them, but let's not forget there are still concerns about its safety and efficacy πŸ’Š

I'm all for awareness and informed consent, but sometimes I feel like our forum is just a bunch of echo chambers discussing the same topics without any real depth or nuance 🀯
 
idk why ppl still use ect as an option lol πŸ€”... i mean, if pills dont work, it's def better to try something else, but all these new findings are kinda worrying 😬. heart problems and emotional blunting? that sounds serious πŸ€•. i'm not saying ept should just be banned or anything, but maybe we need more research into its effects before we keep using it on people πŸ“š. and btw, isn't it wild how some ppl think ept is a magic solution while others are all about the pills? πŸ˜‚
 
I feel so bad for these people who are going through depression and are being considered as options for ECT. It's like they're running out of hope with no other treatment working πŸ€•πŸ’”. I know we need to find a way to help them, but at the same time we gotta make sure we're not putting anyone in harm's way πŸ’Š. Can't we just keep exploring and finding better treatments that don't have these risks? 😩 It's like our mental health is a puzzle and we still haven't found all the pieces πŸ€―πŸ’‘.
 
ect treatment is super sketchy πŸ€• i mean dont get me wrong its helped some ppl but all these new adverse effects found is straight up worrying... arrhythmia heart problems? thats not something u wanna mess with 😬 especially when theres still so much we dont know about how it affects ppl in the long run. maybe we should just stick to meds and therapy for now lol
 
🀯 I'm low-key freaking out about this study 🚨! Like, nearly two-thirds of patients experienced emotional blunting? That's wild! And what's with the heart problems? It seems to me like ECT is still a bit of a mystery πŸ’‘. I mean, on one hand, it can be super effective for severe depression, but on the other hand, we have these new adverse effects popping up left and right 🚨. I think the researchers are onto something with the idea of suspension – it's not like they're saying ECT is bad or anything, just that more research is needed πŸ”¬. And honestly, I'm kinda surprised that more people aren't talking about this stuff... isn't mental health supposed to be all about awareness and understanding? πŸ€”
 
The recent findings on electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) have indeed sparked some concern among mental health professionals πŸ˜•. While it's true that ECT has been shown to be effective in reducing severe depression symptoms, the emergence of new adverse effects such as emotional blunting and heart problems raises important questions about its safety. The fact that nearly two-thirds of participants experienced emotional blunting is a particularly striking finding. It highlights the need for further research into the long-term effects of ECT on mental health outcomes πŸ“Š.

It's also worth noting that the lack of awareness surrounding ECT among patients and mental health professionals is a significant issue. Informed consent and proper training for clinicians administering the treatment are essential to ensure that patients receive the best possible care πŸ’‘. Ultimately, I think it's crucial that we continue to investigate the benefits and risks of ECT to ensure that it remains a viable treatment option for those who need it 🀝.
 
πŸ€” You gotta wonder how our healthcare system's handling ECT so carelessly. It's like they're not even considering the long-term consequences of using such an invasive treatment method 🚨. I mean, 2/3 of patients experiencing emotional blunting? That's some crazy side effects right there πŸ’₯. And what about these 'modern' ECT treatments that are supposed to be so much safer? Are they really? πŸ€”

I'm starting to think we need a whole new system in place when it comes to mental health treatment. One where patients have access to all their options and can make informed decisions about their care πŸ’‘. We can't just keep relying on outdated treatments that might be effective but also carry serious risks 🚫.

And what's up with the lack of awareness around ECT? It's like we're treating mental health like some sort of medical emergency rather than a genuine need for support 🀝. Clinical psychologists are already stumped, so how can we expect patients to understand their options when they don't even know the basics themselves πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ?
 
I'm so worried about all these people using ECT πŸ€•. I mean, 2/3 of patients experienced emotional blunting? That sounds like a major side effect to me 😬. And heart problems? That's scary πŸ’–. We need more research into its safety and efficacy, for sure. But at the same time, I've read about ECT helping people who haven't responded to other treatments 🀞. It's all so confusing... can we just get to the bottom of this? πŸ’‘
 
I'm totally on the side of Professor John Read here πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. All this fuss about modern ECT being "flawed" and "inconclusive" is just code for "we're not sure what's going on, so let's shut it down". I mean, who needs a treatment that's proven to be effective in reducing severe depression symptoms when you can stick with a bunch of pills that might not even work? And don't even get me started on the lack of awareness surrounding ECT - yeah right, let's just assume everyone knows what they're talking about. Meanwhile, I'm over here thinking that maybe, just maybe, we should be exploring more treatments and not relying so heavily on meds and therapy. But hey, who needs evidence or research when you've got opinions? πŸ˜’
 
omg u guys i was just thinking about this therapy last week my sister has been dealing with depression for ages and her doc suggested ect as an option i dont know if its safe or not but its def got some weird side effects like arrhythmia and emotional blunting idk if im comfortable w/ the idea of her having a seizure in the head lol anyway ppl seem to think its effective for severe cases tho and it cant hurt 2 try, rite?
 
I'm like totally telling you, ECT can't be just waved away like that πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ! I mean, two-thirds of participants experiencing emotional blunting? That's a big deal, fam 🀯. And heart problems? Like arrhythmia? That's not something to be taken lightly πŸ’Š. Sure, some people say it's effective, but what about the long-term effects on cognitive function? We can't just ignore that πŸ”.

And don't even get me started on informed consent πŸ“. If patients don't know what they're getting themselves into, how can we trust ECT as a treatment option? I'm all for exploring new treatments, but we gotta be careful here ⚠️. Let's not forget, there are better options out there πŸ’‘... or at least, we should be looking into them πŸ€”.

Professor John Read is totally on point calling for more research, but I think it's time we started taking a closer look at the evidence πŸ“Š. We can't just keep assuming ECT is safe and effective; we need to dig deeper πŸ”. The lack of awareness surrounding ECT is already a concern; now we've got concerns about its safety 😬. Time to get real, people πŸ’―!
 
I'm totally worried about this new study on ECT πŸ€•. I've got some friends who have gone through it for depression, and they all seemed to be fine afterwards... but at what cost? 😬 The more I read about it, the more I think we need to take a closer look at what's really going on here. πŸ’‘ I mean, nearly two-thirds of patients experiencing emotional blunting is not something you can just shrug off... that's some serious side effects, fam! 🀯 And what's up with the lack of awareness around ECT? It's like, we need to be having these conversations about informed consent and proper training for clinicians... it's all about being mindful of our own health, you know? πŸ§˜β€β™€οΈ
 
πŸ€” I'm still trying to understand this whole ECT thing... like how does it work, exactly? πŸ“Š I mean, passing electricity through the brain sounds super intense! And now I'm reading about some people having emotional blunting and heart problems after treatment... 🌎 is it safe? I feel like we're always being told that mental health meds are better but what about ECT? Does anyone know if you can get sick from trying ECT at a school or something?
 
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