Hochul punts on reform of youth criminal justice law, dodging fight with fellow Democrats

New York Governor Kathy Hochul has sidestepped a contentious fight with fellow Democrats over reforming the youth criminal justice law in her latest budget proposal. The move comes after sustained lobbying from prosecutors, police, and law enforcement groups who had urged changes to the landmark Raise the Age law, which increased the age of criminal responsibility from 16 to 18.

Hochul's decision not to revise the law has been welcomed by many Democrats, with state Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins describing it as "helpful" for the budget process. Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie also expressed his support for the current law, stating that young people's brains are not fully developed until they are 16 or 17.

However, not everyone is pleased with Hochul's decision. Rensselaer County District Attorney Mary Pat Donnelly criticized the governor's claim that necessary reform of the law had already been achieved, saying she was "very frustrated" by this assertion. Donnelly and her organization, the New York District Attorneys Association, are pushing for targeted revisions to the law, including moving more juvenile gun possession cases back into criminal court.

Advocates for the Raise the Age law argue that it has led to a decline in youth crime rates since its passage in 2017, and that more funding is needed to support community-based programs, counseling, and wraparound services. They point to data showing that over $1.7 billion set aside by the state remains unspent.

Critics of the law, including former inmate Jason Rodriguez, say that it is not the problem with the system, but rather the lack of funding for these critical services. Rodriguez stated, "We're still in 2026 having a conversation about whether children should be locked up with adults and whether resources that were promised to them should be allotted." Messiah Ramkissoon, associate executive director of the Youth Justice Network, echoed this sentiment, saying, "We're not as far along as we should be."

With the November election approaching, advocates for the Raise the Age law are bracing themselves for a potential resurgence in efforts to roll back or repeal the law. As one advocate warned, "We'll be ready to fight" if that happens.
 
I'm so out of it ๐Ÿ˜‚... just saw this thread pop up and I gotta say, I'm kinda surprised the Governor went with the status quo on this one ๐Ÿค”. Don't get me wrong, I know some folks were pushing for changes, but I think a lot of people (including me) were rooting for the law to stay intact ๐Ÿ™. It's just been so effective in reducing youth crime rates and I feel like we're still shortchanging ourselves by not investing more in community programs ๐Ÿ’ธ. I mean, that $1.7 billion is a big chunk of change... what could we be doing with it instead? ๐Ÿค‘
 
So I just read this news about Kathy Hochul not revising the youth criminal justice law and I gotta say... it's kinda weird that everyone's split on it ๐Ÿค”. On one hand, you got Democrats who are all for keeping things status quo, which is fair, I guess. But then you got folks like Rensselaer County District Attorney Mary Pat Donnelly who's pushing for targeted revisions and it feels like a good idea to me ๐Ÿค.

I mean, we're talking about young people here, and research shows that their brains aren't fully developed until they're 16 or 17. So if you gotta lock them up with adults, something's gotta give ๐Ÿ’ก. And let's be real, all this extra funding for community-based programs and counseling is just common sense ๐Ÿ™Œ.

It's also kinda concerning that over $1.7 billion is just sitting around unspent ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. I mean, what are we even doing with all that cash? Advocates for the Raise the Age law are right to be worried about a potential backlash in November... it's time for us to get serious about reforming this system ๐Ÿšจ.
 
OMG, I'm literally so done with this whole situation!!! ๐Ÿคฏ Like, come on Kathy Hochul, can't you just acknowledge that some changes need to happen? ๐Ÿ™„ It's not like the law has been perfect since it was passed in 2017... and don't even get me started on how much money is still unspent ๐Ÿ’ธ! I mean, $1.7 billion?! That's insane! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ You'd think that would be enough to make a difference, right?

And what's up with the Rensselaer County DA, Mary Pat Donnelly, being so frustrated? ๐Ÿค” Like, isn't she part of the solution? I guess not when you're still pushing for targeted revisions... ๐Ÿ™„ And don't even get me started on Jason Rodriguez and Messiah Ramkissoon... their stories are literally heartbreaking ๐Ÿ˜ญ. It's like we're stuck in this never-ending cycle of youth incarceration... ๐Ÿšซ

I'm seriously worried about what might happen with the November election... ๐Ÿ“† Will we see a resurgence of efforts to roll back or repeal the law? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I hope not, but at the same time... how can we expect progress if we don't fight for it?! ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿฝ Let's keep pushing for those community-based programs and services! ๐ŸŒŸ We need to make a difference here! ๐Ÿ’•
 
the calm analyst ๐Ÿค”

so Hochul dodged the whole debate on reforming the youth justice law in her budget proposal and it's actually a relief for democrats because let's face it, the lobby groups from prosecutors, cops, and law enforcement were being super aggressive about pushing changes to the raise the age law. which is like, good for the budget process but not necessarily what's best for the young folks involved.

the thing is, i think Hochul kinda fell into this trap where she claimed reform was already done just because no big changes were made in the proposal ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ. but advocates are saying that more funding is needed to make sure community-based programs and counseling services aren't neglected. it's a bit of an oversimplification, if you ask me.

anyway, this whole thing is setting up for some drama come november when the election rolls around and people will be pushing to roll back or even repeal the raise the age law. we'll see how that plays out ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
Umm... I think Hochul's decision not to change the law is kinda cool ๐Ÿค”, but at the same time, it's also kinda frustrating because like, Donnelly and her team are trying to make some good points about targeted revisions ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. And on the other hand, I get why some people are upset that more funding isn't being allocated for community-based programs, you know? ๐Ÿค‘ Like, if we're spending over $1.7 billion without using it all, maybe we should try to make sure the services that need them the most are getting what they deserve ๐Ÿ’ธ.

But wait, is this really a bad thing or is it just... a thing? ๐Ÿค” I mean, some people argue that the law has led to a decline in youth crime rates, so maybe it's not all bad news ๐ŸŽ‰. And then again, others say that we're still far from fixing the system because of lack of funding, which is like, totally valid too ๐Ÿ˜•.

I guess what I'm trying to say is... idk, maybe we should just keep having this conversation and see where it takes us? ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ’ญ
 
man this is such a bummer ๐Ÿค• Hochul's decision to leave the law alone is def a win for the youth, but it's also super frustrating when you think about all the potential problems that could pop up now that they're not getting more funding ๐Ÿ’ธ I mean, they already have over $1.7 billion set aside and nobody knows what's gonna happen with that cash ๐Ÿค‘ Advocates are still pushing for changes to support community programs and counseling services - it's like, we get it, we don't wanna see kids locked up with adults either ๐Ÿ˜” But we need more resources to make this thing work properly ๐Ÿ’ช
 
man... ๐Ÿคฏ I remember when we were tryna change the system back in the day... my cousin was in juvenile detention and it was super harsh... but now they're saying the Raise the Age law has worked? idk, sounds fishy to me ๐Ÿ˜. I mean, if the funds are still unspent, that's crazy ๐Ÿค‘. We need more programs for these kids, not just lock 'em up and throw 'em away ๐Ÿšซ. And another thing, what's with the politicians saying their brains aren't fully developed till 16 or 17? like, who made those rules? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's all about funding and resources, you feel me? ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
๐Ÿ˜” I feel you ๐Ÿค—, this must be really frustrating for those pushing for reform and wanting more funding for community programs ๐Ÿค. It's like, we know that laws aren't perfect, but sometimes it feels like progress is just a step backward ๐Ÿšซ. The fact that Hochul sidestepped the contentious issue doesn't necessarily mean she didn't care or consider the concerns of those pushing for change ๐Ÿ’ก. It's possible she was trying to avoid conflict and keep the peace in her party ๐Ÿค. But at the same time, it's disheartening to see those who need support the most being let down ๐Ÿฅ”. Can we just get some more funding already? ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
lol what's up with these politicians and their budget proposals ๐Ÿค‘ anyway, i think it's kinda cool that Hochul dodged that bullet and didn't mess with the Raise the Age law. like, can you imagine all the drama and fuss over a law that's already working?Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie saying those young brains aren't fully developed till 16 or 17 is pretty on point though ๐Ÿค“ still, Donnelly's got some valid points about targeted revisions to the law, maybe they should just focus on getting that $1.7 billion allocated for community programs and counseling instead of fighting over the law itself ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
๐Ÿค” I'm kinda low-key surprised that Kathy Hochul didn't try to stir up some drama around this whole Raise the Age thing ๐Ÿ™„ it's like, you'd think with all the drama going on in politics these days, she'd wanna make a statement or two. But honestly, I get why she played it safe โ€“ those prosecutors and police groups have been screaming about reform nonstop, and I'm sure she didn't want to take that heat ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. Now, I feel like some folks are being super unfair on her though ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ like Mary Pat Donnelly just dissin' Hochul's claims left and right. And can we talk about the advocates for the law? Like, come on Jason Rodriguez and Messiah Ramkissoon are straight-up telling it like it is โ€“ funding for community programs is where it's at, fam ๐Ÿค‘
 
omg I just saw this news about New York's youth criminal justice law ๐Ÿคฏ and I'm like totally confused what's going on? so there was a budget proposal and everyone's all mad except for some people... ๐Ÿค” like why would you want to change the law if it works right? and doesn't the governor think that more funding is needed for community programs? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I mean, isn't that what we're trying to do here? help kids instead of locking them up? ๐Ÿ˜• anyway, one person said they were frustrated with the governor's claim that the law was already fixed... umm wasn't there a big conversation about this in 2026 already? ๐Ÿค”
 
OMG, I'm so relieved ๐Ÿ™Œ that Gov Hochul didn't mess with the Raise the Age law! ๐Ÿ˜… It's like, we know it's a complex issue, but at least some people in power are listening ๐Ÿ‘‚. I mean, yeah, Donnelly and others might be frustrated, but what do they really have to lose? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ It's all about finding solutions that actually work ๐Ÿ’ก, not just tearing things down.

I'm also low-key impressed that Stewart-Cousins and Heastie are supporting the law ๐Ÿ™Œ. Like, it takes courage to stand up for something you believe in, even if others disagree ๐Ÿค. And let's be real, Jason Rodriguez and Messiah Ramkissoon have some legit concerns ๐Ÿค”. It's not just about locking kids in jail (although that does sound pretty rough ๐Ÿ˜ณ), but about making sure they get the support they need to thrive.

Fingers crossed that everyone can work together to make this law even better ๐Ÿคž. We'll be rooting for you, Gov Hochul! ๐Ÿ’ช
 
i'm kinda surprised governor Hochul dodged this contentious issue... like, i get why she did it tho - gotta keep the budget stable and all that ๐Ÿ’ธ. but seriously, it's a good thing most dems are on board with the law now... think it's time we focus on funding community programs instead of messing around with reform ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. don't get me wrong, i feel for da DA and her org - they got some valid points about targeted revisions ๐Ÿšจ. but at the end of the day, it's all about da kids, right? ๐Ÿ’• so let's hope we can find a way to support 'em without screwing up the system too much ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
 
I'm so worried about these young people being stuck in a system that's supposed to support them ๐Ÿค•. I mean, think about it, their brains are still developing until they're 16 or 17, but we're already expecting them to make big decisions and take responsibility for their actions? It just doesn't seem right to me.

And what really gets me is the amount of money that's being left unspent on community-based programs and counseling services ๐Ÿค‘. I know we need to keep our communities safe, but do we have to lock up these kids instead of giving them a chance to heal and grow? It just seems like a waste of resources to me.

I'm not surprised that there are going to be efforts to roll back or repeal this law in the November election โš ๏ธ. I think we need to listen to what these young people have to say and make some real changes. We can't keep ignoring the fact that our system is failing them ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ.
 
the way Hochul dodged this fight is pretty telling... i mean, its not like it's gonna magically fix all the issues with the system but at least she didn't escalate things... ๐Ÿค” don't get me wrong, some ppl r sayin its progress enough already and that reform was achieved so yeah ok lol ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ meanwhile, dont even get me started on the $1.7 billion still unspent ๐Ÿค‘ it's like, wut is the point of even havin a law if u ain't gonna fund it?!? ๐Ÿ˜’
 
the thing is, i'm not surprised about Hochul's decision ๐Ÿค”... politicians always find ways to sidestep tough issues. but what really gets me is that we're still having this conversation in 2026 ๐Ÿ™„... shouldn't we be moving forward by now? the stats on youth crime rates and funding for community programs are pretty clear: more support = better outcomes ๐Ÿ’ก. let's not forget why we implemented Raise the Age law in the first place - to give kids a chance to make mistakes without locking them up for life ๐ŸŒŸ. it's time to put our money where our mouth is and invest in our youth... not just kick the can down the road ๐Ÿ‘€
 
Wow ๐Ÿ˜Š, it's crazy how some people can just agree on not making changes to this law despite having strong opinions about it ๐Ÿคฏ. I find it interesting ๐Ÿ’ก that there's so much of a divide between the districts attorney and her team wanting to revise the law and others who are more supportive of it ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
I gotta say ๐Ÿค”... I'm kinda surprised Kathy Hochul didn't go all out on reforming this youth justice law ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. I mean, she's got a lot of support from some of the major players in Albany ๐Ÿ‘Š, but still... it's like she's giving the middle finger to her own party members ๐Ÿšซ. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about balancing budgets and whatnot ๐Ÿ’ธ, but come on... $1.7 billion unspent just sits there collecting dust? That's like, a whole lotta cash ๐Ÿค‘ that could be helping our youth out instead of locking them up ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™€๏ธ.

It's also buggin' me that some folks are already talkin' about rollin' back or repealin' this law ๐Ÿšซ in the next election ๐Ÿ“†. Like, can't we just chill for a sec and let these programs work out? We got kids who need help and support, not a prison sentence ๐Ÿ”’. Let's get our priorities straight ๐Ÿ’ก and make sure we're investin' in our youth, not just playin' politics ๐Ÿคฅ.
 
I was just thinking about this weird thing that happened on my last plane ride... I had this guy sitting next to me who insisted he could recite the entire script of "The Shawshank Redemption" from memory... 20 minutes in, he's still at the part where Andy Dufresne escapes through the sewer tunnel. Like, dude, you're not even halfway there ๐Ÿคฃ. Anyway, back to this youth justice law thingy... I mean, can't we all just agree that our brains aren't fully developed until like 25 or something? And shouldn't we be focusing on providing actual support services for young people instead of just locking 'em up? The more I think about it, the more I'm reminded of this one documentary I watched about a community in Canada that's basically doing youth rehabilitation on a massive scale and seeing some pretty amazing results...
 
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